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Author Topic: Fate / Lunar Sun  (Read 26347 times)

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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2014, 03:20:59 pm »

Thanks for sharing what you can.

Will opt for Option 3 then, is dishonorable and may get us hurt, but it appears they want to fight anyway.
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2014, 03:23:21 pm »

Ah, what the heck, lets try 3. I doubt we will succeed, but I am curious about this Archer fellow. Knowing my luck, we'll get smacked on our back and laughed at, but here we go.
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2014, 03:25:58 pm »

Yes, let's start a servant fight in the middle of a residential zone in broad daylight, what could go wrong?
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2014, 03:39:36 pm »

Yes, let's start a servant fight in the middle of a residential zone in broad daylight, what could go wrong?
It is a chance, it could go wrong but the actual fighting odds are in our favor imo, it makes sense to try.
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2014, 03:53:06 pm »

Yes, let's start a servant fight in the middle of a residential zone in broad daylight, what could go wrong?
It is a chance, it could go wrong but the actual fighting odds are in our favor imo, it makes sense to try.
Ah. Would I be correct in guessing you have seen the anime, but not played the VN?
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2014, 03:58:02 pm »

Yes, let's start a servant fight in the middle of a residential zone in broad daylight, what could go wrong?
It is a chance, it could go wrong but the actual fighting odds are in our favor imo, it makes sense to try.
Ah. Would I be correct in guessing you have seen the anime, but not played the VN?
I watched one of the animes, it was alright, I have said I am not a fan.

I would expect that the VN showed exactly why this was a bad idea. Your statement does not invalidate my argument.
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2014, 04:07:20 pm »

Just kill it and not worry about the conseuences.
Never hurt me before except for thoes times it has...
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2014, 04:09:14 pm »

I watched one of the animes, it was alright, I have said I am not a fan.

I would expect that the VN showed exactly why this was a bad idea. Your statement does not invalidate my argument.
Alright, you know how at the beginning of the story, Shirou stumbles over Lancer and Archer pounding each other while Rin watches and tries to remember as much as possible, only to be chased down by Lancer and impaled by his Gae Bolg? That's not just Lancer being a dick, that's because there are something like 2 rules to being a Magus, and the most important one is DON'T LET ANYBODY FIND OUT ABOUT MAGIC OR WE WILL MINDRAPE AND/OR KILL EVERYONE EVEN TANGENTIALLY INVOLVED.
Somehow I do not think Shirou and Rin would have raised kids that were ok with that.
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2014, 04:24:31 pm »

------------------------------------------------------------------------Sneak attack Archer from behind!

That's right.
This is our best chance.
It's too early for anyone to be out, but they're going to be out soon.
It's best to finish this before it begins........
…....................And the best way to do that-

Is to attack from behind!

I kick out at the beck of his leg, and hope to knock him off balance.
Saber can finish him easily if it's like that!
My foot lashes out, a speed born of a lifetime of training for this moment!

Crack.
Something broke.
It's not Archer.
My foot..................................
…..................................My foot is on backwards.
“Haaaa.......Haa...........”
It hurts.
It hurts it hurts it hurts it hurts
He didn't even use his weapon.

Saber never had a chance to react.
Neither did Arturia.
They watch in horror as my foot is twisted off my leg, snapped like a twig.

Saber rushes at Archer.
But it's too late.
This superhuman speed......
Nobody could beat that.
Archer spins around to face her, and vanishes.
“....?”

Where did he go?
I fall to the ground.
There's a lot of blood.
My vision grows hazy.............

Up there.
On top of a street lamp.
Archer stands on the thin rod of metal as if he were solidly planted on granite and marble.
“Haaaaaa........Haaaaaa...........”
My foot is on fire.
There's blood everywhere.

There are girls screaming, flashes of Magic.
Arturia and the other Master......
What was her name?
They're fighting with magic.
But my eyes are fixed on Archer.

“Geeze. It's like you guys don't even want to get to know us.”
Archer mocks us from on top of the light.
He stands up there like a god.

Saber growls in frustration.
Her sword cannot reach up there.
No sword could.
She's not an Archer.
She has to be up close to her enemy.

Even as I lay on the ground, bleeding out, I feel the rush of Magical Energy gathering.
What is this massive amount of Energy?
It's Saber.
Whatever she's doing, it's going to be big.
Her mouth opens, and to me, it's like she's in slow motion underwater.
“EX--------------------”

A hurricane-like gust of wind that keeps coming.
The sheath comes off, and the sword is revealed.
Blue and gold intertwine along the blade, sharper than any mortal smith could forge.
It can't be....
Is that...............
…......................Her Noble Phantasm?

There's another loud crack....
…..No, more like a massive explosion.
There's a blinding flash and a crash of thunder like the fury of Zeus.
But Saber doesn't care.
“------------------------------------CALIBUR!!!!!!!!!!”
The golden blade arcs through the air, cutting aside everything in it's path.
Like lightning it whips from ready position to the follow through, like the pressurized water factories use to cut steel, both fluid and impossibly sharp and hard.
But.........
It's not long enough.
It was never long enough.
It's just a sword.
There's a small flash, and nothing else.

Saber look at her sword like it betrayed her.
And then down at her chest in pure shock.
No, not at her chest.
She's trying to look at her neck.
Just under her chin, a tiny, perfect hole pierces her throat.
Blood blossoms like a crimson flower.

Saber looks up to the figure on the light pole.
“Sorry Ma'am. Couldn't let King Arthur hit me with the magic stick.”
He apologizes earnestly, like he did something wrong.
Even as she fades into purple sparks and disappears.
Saber vanishes into the night like she was never there.

My vision tunnels.
There's more cracks and flashes of light.
My last thought, as darkness overwhelms me.........
…..........Should I be sorry to Arturia, or Saber?


DEAD END------------------
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2014, 04:24:59 pm »

The Tiger Dojo is a strange hint corner.
If you wish to maintain the feel of the story or the characterizations within,
Or if you want to beat the game yourself,
Feel free to skip this scene, and the hints therein.

SCENE: Tiger Dojo 2
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TAIGA: STUPID KIRITSUGU-KUN!

ILYA: YEAH! STUPID STUPID DUMB DUMB!

TAIGA: Welcome to the Tiger Dojo, where heroes come to die and get mocked by christmas cake and lolicon!

ILYA: I'm the loli baruma with the most, Ilyasviel von Einzbern!

TAIGA: And I'm Not a Christmas Cake!

ILYA: She's right. There's no fourty-fifth of December, and you're supposed to throw the cake out by January.

TAIGA: Uuuuuuu~~! This would have never happened if Kiritsugu-kun had decided to take the army with him!

ILYA: It could also have been avoided by not trying to kick a Servant in the shin.

TAIGA: Emiya's don't tend to be smart very often, do they?

ILYA: Cute though!

TAIGA: I'll give you that.

TAIGA: WAIT A SECOND!

*WHACK*

ILYA: Ah~! The Tora-Shinai! The weapon that always assaults me when I angst over not getting my own route!

TAIGA: Are you still on about that!?

ILYA: Of course I am! You never had one, so you wouldn't know!

TAIGA: Hmmmmm..... Well, that's true. But~! That's not the point of this Dojo! We need to help Kiritsugu-kun survive his first meeting with Archer-san!

ILYA: Tell 'em, Sensei!

TAIGA: Archer-san is a sly one, so don't try to outfox a fox! You have to be open and honest with him, because he'll see through every lie you tell!

ILYA: But what about Saber's Noble Phantasm? He just disabled it!

TAIGA: This is a war of overpowered people fighting other overpowered people! You can't depend on Saber being the most powerful!

TAIGA: And even if she is, you have to know what you don't know! Learn that, Baruma!

ILYA: Osu~! Lesson Learned! Know what you don't know so that you know what your enemy knows you don't know!

TAIGA: Simple lessons, that's what the Tiger Dojo teaches!

ILYA: Anyone who doesn't get them is an idiot!

RIN: What are you two on about now?

TAIGA: Like this one! Get out, idiot!

*WHACK*

ILYA: Ah! Sensei, are you alright?!

RIN: She's fine. I'll get Shirou to call the ambulance.

TAIGA: ooooooooooh............... Those Chinese martial arts are no joke............

ILYA: Sempai, tech me your moves.

RIN: ...No.

ILYA: Sempai, you're so cool~!

RIN: Let's finish the Dojo.

RIN: Hope you had a good time at this Tiger Dojo nonsense. Make sure not to die next time.

ILYA: Bye bye~!

[Return to Last Choice.]
[Return to Scene Select.]
« Last Edit: April 21, 2014, 04:33:21 pm by Karnewarrior »
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2014, 04:25:53 pm »

Lol, in all this worthless speculation on my part, I completely forgot that it was daytime.

Changing my vote to 1.

We can't let innocent people get hurt now, can we?

Though I doubt this hypothetical ''battle'' will even occur: either Andrea, Archer, or Saber are likely to stop this from escalating into a full-on fight in the street. If Kiri tries, it will likely just mark him as brash and impulsive.

Though the fact it is even an option means it is something he would actually consider doing.


Lol, changed my mind too late (not that it numerically mattered). At least I was right that we would lose and be laughed at. My vote stands at 1.

Still glad we got a tiger dojo, since that is a fun part of the VN.
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2014, 04:31:42 pm »

And yet it is an option, I think that means he either didn't think of the consequences or doesn't care or is willing to deal with it.

Not like we expect him to use magic anyway, he is a failure of a mage remember? Either way, should someone find out, he will and the rest will have to do the right thing and kill the witnesses even if they don't want to. Something I think that any mage would need to be ready to do, no matter who raised them.

Anyway as you can see, that turned out as we expected, still glad we tried, as it was a chance, even if it is stupid to attack a servant.
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2014, 04:40:02 pm »

Small question: Couldn't Saber have jumped? Not contesting that we would have lost against Archer, just wondering why the height of a lamppost was such a problem to Saber.

And now that we have finished like that, lets hope in the next posts we can discuss options without condescending and insulting each other for our differing views.
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2014, 05:32:57 pm »

I vote we use the third option again! THIS TIME IT SHALL WORK!

Ok this failed the 30 times I tried it please ignore me :(
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Re: Fate / Lunar Sun
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2014, 07:02:40 pm »

I vote we use the third option again! THIS TIME IT SHALL WORK!

Ok this failed the 30 times I tried it please ignore me :(
lol

Guess we go for option 1 this time round then.
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