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Until I figure out how to un-close it, at least.

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So yeah.

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Voting closed: May 01, 2014, 02:06:40 pm

[mainiac]

- NATO is a paper tiger in continental Europe both logistically and army composition wise

XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD

[gogis]

- Russia acted because military tech and production centers in Ukraine are important geopolitically
- There naval base which is important geopolitically
- NATO is a paper tiger in continental Europe both logistically and army composition wise

I am peace loving liberal who is 100% agree with that. And I am sure all points is correct.

Gogis, can I ask you a civil question? How do you define "Liberal"?

Liberty and equality.

[Xeron]

Can we seriously just ignore Gogis ? At least Sergarr is willing to concede, Gogis is just....acting like a troll

[misko27]

If NATO was out to get Russia then the Russian invasion of Crimea would have been all the excuse NATO needed.

NATO big bad evil thing.  Politician said so.  Politician wants you to vote for him to keep away big scary NATO.  Must be working because big scary NATO hasn't actually hurt you at all.

- Russia acted because military tech and production centers in Ukraine are important geopolitically
- There naval base which is important geopolitically
- NATO is a paper tiger in continental Europe both logistically and army composition wise

I am peace loving liberal who is 100% agree with that. And I am sure all points is correct.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

[gogis]

Can we seriously just ignore Gogis ? At least Sergarr is willing to concede, Gogis is just....acting like a troll

It's fun that 'willing to concede' is shown as a virtue here. Okay...

[GrizzlyAdamz]

snip

Funny how the strongest critics of the US government are Americans but Russians feel the need to attack those who document what their government does.

I can't deduce -snip- because it's derogatory, as any of  your answers to me.

-snip-
is used to shorten responses so the page doesn't scroll on and on with massive quotes. If you don't follow the convo, click the quote url at the top of the quote.

Kinda goes with the 'don't double-post' attitude.

It's not derogatory.

[Owlbread]

Liberty and equality.

It's curious that, given that you seem to support Putin's "managed democracy" (how do you reconcile that with a desire for liberty?) and you have shown views in the past that are quite at odds with equality.

[mainiac]

Can we seriously just ignore Gogis ? At least Sergarr is willing to concede, Gogis is just....acting like a troll

But then I'll miss out on gems like NATO being a paper tiger!

[Ukrainian Ranger]

- NATO is a paper tiger in continental Europe both logistically and army composition wise

XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD

Exactly my reaction.
I should add  - especially when you talk about Airforce (Russians please not remind about the best SAMs in the world that Russia has. I know your position on that matter.)

I can't deduce -snip- because it's derogatory, as any of  your answers to me.

LOL

[GrizzlyAdamz]

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I just don't know what's going on in this thread anymore.

[gogis]

snip

Funny how the strongest critics of the US government are Americans but Russians feel the need to attack those who document what their government does.

I can't deduce -snip- because it's derogatory, as any of  your answers to me.

-snip-
is used to shorten responses so the page doesn't scroll on and on with massive quotes. If you don't follow the convo, click the quote url at the top of the quote.

Kinda goes with the 'don't double-post' attitude.

It's not derogatory.

I perfectly know what "snip" means. On the other hand, deleting lines and leaving ones you want answer to is a much better move.
Reread his message again. Do you know what words he answers? No, you don't. You need to retrack my previous messages.

[miljan]

Russian bombers in last 24h few times entered ukraine air space (if true)
http://www.news.nom.co/russian-aircraft-entered-ukraine-9174486-news/

[gogis]

Liberty and equality.

It's curious that, given that you seem to support Putin's "managed democracy" (how do you reconcile that with a desire for liberty?) and you have shown views in the past that are quite at odds with equality.

My views on democracy is most likely not in line with yours. I kinda believe it's a rule of majority(not sovereignity of person). Name it a mob rule or not, but it's majority, conformist style. I realise that majority of Russians is not sharing my views, but whatnot.
I am pro gay, pro choice, militant atheist, which automatically put me in less than 1% of population.
Am I odds with equality? No. I kinda somewhat odd with caucasus people because of my past endeavors with them, but I am usually open with any person beforehand. My local groceries is 100% caucasus people and I friendly chit-chat with them. My basic principle - stab me and I answer one-hundred-fold. Thats why I am so militant on country outer politics and generally hostile to verbal/personal abuse.

[Owlbread]

Am I odds with equality? No. I kinda somewhat odd with caucasus people because of my past endeavors with them, but I am usually open with any person beforehand. My local groceries is 100% caucasus people and I friendly chit-chat with them. My basic principle - stab me and I answer one-hundred-fold. Thats why I am so militant on country outer politics and generally hostile to verbal/personal abuse.

"Ok, I know I've got a bit of a problem with black people but I've had some bad experiences with them, alright? I got robbed for god's sake... I'm totally not racist though."

Russian bombers in last 24h few times entered ukraine air space (if true)
http://www.news.nom.co/russian-aircraft-entered-ukraine-9174486-news/

I'm surprised we haven't seen more of that sort of thing. Ukraine wouldn't dare fire the first shot of course, so I doubt they'd shoot a Russian bomber but they aren't exactly calming the situation by doing this.

[gogis]

"Ok, I know I've got a bit of a problem with black people but I've had some bad experiences with them, alright? I got robbed for god's sake... I'm totally not racist though."

Uh-oh. You are typical who can't draw a line between racism and prejudice. It's not black and white world, dear friend, it's just you need time to understand that (but you never will). I know, racism guilt is so western, but don't be so predictable. I saw your move miles ahead. I grew up in USSR where racism was sort of a treason, so your complexes is not aplliable to me.

You all dogpiled on me today even if I was pretty benign to my standards. You all so predictable, poor lads...

/inbefore ban, now for real