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Until I figure out how to un-close it, at least.

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So yeah.

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Voting closed: May 01, 2014, 02:06:40 pm

[RedKing]

Remember what I said about Ukraine not helping itself with some of the rhetoric? 

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Should we, Ukrainians, go  "Russians are nice, cool and superior race and we'll do nothing for self-defense?" 

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Eh, haterade is free when you get invaded.

Meanwhile the american army has the same problem, (though that's off-topic).

[RedKing]

Should we, Ukrainians, go  "Russians are nice, cool and superior race and we'll do nothing for self-defense?" 

No, but implying that their soldiers are a bunch of unskilled rapists is probably not the way to go. Just saying.

[Knit tie]

Well, Russia has troops right near our borders in big clusters... Surprise attack on those could make incoming war somewhat easier

After all, if You take away elite troops, core of Russian army is a bunch of teenagers who are more busy raping each other than learning how to wage war

Now that's just insulting, really. Are our conscripts incompetent? Yes, as all the other conscripts everywhere else are. Are they a bunch of violent, ape-like thugs who can be exterminated with impunity? No. They are just normal kids who are forced to spend a year in the army.

Should we, Ukrainians, go  "Russians are nice, cool and superior race and we'll do nothing for self-defense?" 

I would rather you go: "Russians are people like us, Putin is a treacherous bastard, we will kill all russians who attack us with righteous fury and determination but we won't hate them as a people afterwards." There are alternatives to the "Russians are all either a superior race or a tide of sub-human barbarians" false dichotomy you keep pushing.

[Zangi]

Well, Russia has troops right near our borders in big clusters... Surprise attack on those could make incoming war somewhat easier

Well, go ahead and advocate Ukraine's demise...

[Sergarr]

Well, Russia has troops right near our borders in big clusters... Surprise attack on those could make incoming war somewhat easier

After all, if You take away elite troops, core of Russian army is a bunch of teenagers who are more busy raping each other than learning how to wage war

>implying Ukraine army is capable of carrying out surprise attacks against Russia
>implying Ukraine army is capable of carrying out surprise attacks
>implying Ukraine army is capable of carrying out attacks

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[Knit tie]

Well, Russia has troops right near our borders in big clusters... Surprise attack on those could make incoming war somewhat easier

After all, if You take away elite troops, core of Russian army is a bunch of teenagers who are more busy raping each other than learning how to wage war

>implying Ukraine army is capable of carrying out surprise attacks against Russia
>implying Ukraine army is capable of carrying out surprise attacks
>implying Ukraine army is capable of carrying out attacks

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No need to jump on the insult train, Sergarr. UR has invaders in his country, you definitely don't and as such have no excuse for reciprocating his mockery.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Heh, Segarr, you need no much time for starting firing Uragan or Smerch. That is a kind of surprise attack I talked about. No need for complicated strategies when you see huge columns across the border
Of cause I joked here but really, if you think that we have no toys to do a first strike... Then you are not smart

[Knit tie]

Any army with artillery can perform a tactically sound surprise attack. The problem would be surviving the consequences.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Meanwhile OSCE mission is taken hostages

[Guardian G.I.]

Any army with artillery can perform a tactically sound surprise attack. The problem would be surviving the consequences.

Georgian President Saakashvili learned it the hard way.

(I guess Sheb will be mad at me for saying that)

[Knit tie]

Any army with artillery can perform a tactically sound surprise attack. The problem would be surviving the consequences.

Georgian President Saakashvili found it out the hard way.

(I guess Sheb will be mad at me for saying that)

So to prevent further arguing, let me say that surprise attacks can be executed in response to an enemy invasion as well.

[Sheb]

Any army with artillery can perform a tactically sound surprise attack. The problem would be surviving the consequences.

Georgian President Saakashvili learned it the hard way.

(I guess Sheb will be mad at me for saying that)

Nah, actually I'm okay with that. Although he sadly failed in his attack. History may have been different if the Georgian Air Force had succeeded in closing the Roki tunnel.

[RedKing]

Meanwhile OSCE mission is taken hostages

Unsurprising. Heard a bit of BBC radio coverage earlier today and the locals in Mariupol were accusing the BBC correspondent (Natalia Antelava, a Georgian) of being an American spy because she spoke English in addition to Russian. Paranoia is running rampant.