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Until I figure out how to un-close it, at least.

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So yeah.

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Voting closed: May 01, 2014, 02:06:40 pm

[LordSlowpoke]

if we are to replace putin with someone let's replace him with petrosyan

because it'd be a big fucking joke

[Sean Mirrsen]

If you were to replace Putin, you'd probably need to replace Medvedev as well.

[Duuvian]

Russian President Vladimir Putin said "if the Kiev regime has started to use the army against the population inside the country, it, beyond any doubt, is a very serious crime."

Spoiler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War (click to show/hide)

Estimates of deaths in the Syrian War, per opposition activist groups, vary between 104,420[1][2] and 150,345.[3] On 24 July 2013, the United Nations put out an estimate of over 100,000 that had died in the war.[4]

UNICEF reported that over 500 children had been killed by early February 2012.[5][6] Another 400 children have been reportedly arrested and tortured in Syrian prisons.[7][8] Both claims have been contested by the Syrian government.[9] Additionally, over 600 detainees and political prisoners have died under torture.[10] By mid-March 2014, the opposition activist group Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) reported the number of children killed in the conflict had risen to 7,985, while at the same time 5,266 women were also killed.[3] According to the UN, 6,561 children were killed by mid-June 2013.[11] The Oxford Research Group said that a total of 11,420 children had been killed in the conflict by late November 2013.[12]

Literally just today:

Syrian warplanes target crowded market

[Sergarr]

Nobody cares about how many Syrians die. It's the Europeans deaths which are important. Sad but true.

[Duuvian]

Nobody cares about how many Syrians die. It's the Europeans deaths which are important. Sad but true.

That's not true at all.

I should note I don't support the use of the Army in Eastern Ukraine. However I would like to point out the extreme hypocrisy shown by Putin regarding intervention. Hundreds of thousands of people dieing in a conflict with their own government? Putin thinks that's okay because he supports that government. A few armed men are shot after confronting government forces? Not cool, says Putin, because this time he supports the armed anti-government groups.

[Darvi]

Yeah, American deaths cause at least as much of an uproar.

[lemon10]

Nobody cares about how many Syrians die. It's the Europeans deaths which are important. Sad but true.

That's not true at all.

Yeah, its only American deaths that count.

[Duuvian]

Speak for yourself, if you only care about the deaths of certain types of people I feel sorry for you bros.

[Sheb]

Sarcasm! Sarcasm! Sarcasm!

[Duuvian]

Sarcasm! Sarcasm! Sarcasm!

WHAT?! NOT ON MY INTERNET! 

[Sheb]

But more seriously, if hypocrisy was a Winter Olympic discipline, Russia would have walked off with one more gold medal. They did pass a law banning separatism right before taking over Crimea.

[Duuvian]

Hehehe, I didn't know that.

[da_nang]

Since this is technically the Eastern European and USSR politics thread, have some news!
Great Firewall of USSR incoming:
http://www.zdnet.com/facebook-gmail-skype-face-russia-ban-under-anti-terror-data-snooping-plan-7000028740/
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/24/5647686/russian-law-orders-bloggers-to-register-restricts-pornography-and

[GrizzlyAdamz]

Many critics also believe the law may be struck down by Russia's constitutional court as a violation of the country's provisions for free speech.

That is the first mention I've ever heard of Russian constitutional court & judicial review.

[Sean Mirrsen]

* Sean Mirrsen is not following the discussion.

I kinda remembered a certain part of a certain movie after watching the news around here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pD_lqYRihXY#t=5173
(if it's blocked for you, use SaveFrom.net or another YT block avoider of your choice and seek to 1:26:13)

(edit: if you can't see it, it's the scene from "The Running Man" (with Schwarzenegger), with the "not edited for television" footage of Ben Richards refusing to fire on rioting civilians, and being knocked out (and later arrested, imprisoned, and sent to the eponymous show) for refusing repeated orders to that effect)