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Re: Post - USSR and other Eastern European Politics Thread
« Reply #450 on: April 12, 2014, 02:59:31 pm »

You see, the difference between being invaded by the USA and Russia is that under American rule, you are probably no worse off than now, wherever you are now; America seems to be one of the best countries to live in. Russia, on the other hand... Everything will be either destroyed, or stolen, and you will be prosecuted or killed. Totally different situation.
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Re: Post - USSR and other Eastern European Politics Thread
« Reply #451 on: April 12, 2014, 03:04:07 pm »

You see, the difference between being invaded by the USA and Russia is that under American rule, you are probably no worse off than now, wherever you are now; America seems to be one of the best countries to live in. Russia, on the other hand... Everything will be either destroyed, or stolen, and you will be prosecuted or killed. Totally different situation.
You are aware of USA's history of foreign policies right?
If Russia invades you, run. If USA invades you, run. You will be destroyed, or stolen, and you will be prosecuted or killed. USA just has better PR, it actually being able to silence its reporters and obfuscate information with the capabilities that would make the KGB jealous.

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Re: Post - USSR and other Eastern European Politics Thread
« Reply #452 on: April 12, 2014, 03:06:12 pm »

Well, I would kinda argue if America really is "one of the best countries to live in"...I personally, would hate being invaded by USA.

I'd be fine with being invaded by any of the Nordic countries though...then again, being invaded by, say, Denmark, would mean it's government changed so drastically that I probably wouldn't like being ruled by it.
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« Reply #453 on: April 12, 2014, 03:10:47 pm »

Exactly , there are no country that ever benefited from Russian Invasion. No country ever became better from Russian troops inside. Russia brings poverty, genocides, totalitarian regimes and never anything else

Take Korea for example it was occupied by USA and Russia. Now compare how that parts live. Or compare western and eastern Germany. That's same nation the best way to compare. Also, you can compare Afghanistan during Russian occupation and Afganistan during American occupation
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« Reply #454 on: April 12, 2014, 03:13:46 pm »

Also, you can compare Afghanistan during Russian occupation and Afganistan during American occupation
From a devastated country to drug-growing center. I don't even know what is better.
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Re: Post - USSR and other Eastern European Politics Thread
« Reply #455 on: April 12, 2014, 03:23:07 pm »

I'd be fine with being invaded by any of the Nordic countries though...then again, being invaded by, say, Denmark, would mean it's government changed so drastically that I probably wouldn't like being ruled by it.
I imagine most of us would cry ourselves to sleep if we were invaded by Finland.

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« Reply #456 on: April 12, 2014, 03:26:46 pm »

Comrade, it was a drug-growing center in Soviet times, too. All these 'drug production explosion' myths just come from an opium production shutdown around 2000 which was staged just to drive up the price. Opium stores well, you know.
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Re: Post - USSR and other Eastern European Politics Thread
« Reply #457 on: April 12, 2014, 03:54:30 pm »

I believe that war is preferable to slavery in almost all cases, and as such I would grab my hunting rifle and go guerrilla if Russia was ever invaded by a country that wants to exploit it, as the US most likely would if it ever comes to that. However, if the invaders were to have the desire and capability to bring about positive change, I would welcome them, but such situations are mostly limited to unifications of different factions of the same people who view each other as equals and not inferiors, and even then this is not always not the case.

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« Reply #458 on: April 12, 2014, 04:21:25 pm »

I'd be fine with being invaded by any of the Nordic countries though...then again, being invaded by, say, Denmark, would mean it's government changed so drastically that I probably wouldn't like being ruled by it.
I imagine most of us would cry ourselves to sleep if we were invaded by Finland.
And you would damn well deserve to, if you manage to screw up war that badly. I'd feel the same if we were ever invaded unificated back with "Swedish Empire".
Horrible Finnish pop is relevant. One bottle at a time...

Does anyone want to make bets on how long till we have all out war going on in eastern front?
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« Reply #459 on: April 12, 2014, 04:26:15 pm »

150 years, cause I'm an optimist.
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« Reply #460 on: April 12, 2014, 04:37:00 pm »

Exactly , there are no country that ever benefited from Russian Invasion. No country ever became better from Russian troops inside. Russia brings poverty, genocides, totalitarian regimes and never anything else

Take Korea for example it was occupied by USA and Russia. Now compare how that parts live. Or compare western and eastern Germany. That's same nation the best way to compare. Also, you can compare Afghanistan during Russian occupation and Afganistan during American occupation

Korea probably isn't the best example because North Korea has a hereditary communist monarchy leadership that absolutely opresses the populace.

Yes, I said hereditary communist monarchy. About the only thing missing is a shiny crown. Well, maybe not an European style crown anyway.
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« Reply #461 on: April 12, 2014, 04:41:15 pm »

If that will happen April 20 I think is very fitting date. Full-out war with tanks artillery and stuff is unlikely. Like 10-15%, no more

But low intensity war has started already. Real war. With real deaths, with real battles, with real diversions is ongoing and will not end until Ukraine becomes controlled by Russia or Putin loses his power

Korea probably isn't the best example because North Korea has a hereditary communist monarchy leadership that absolutely opresses the populace.

Yes, I said hereditary communist monarchy. About the only thing missing is a shiny crown.
And that communist monarchy became a reality only because at some point of time Korea was under control of Russia (don't remember if USSR actually had troops there and too lazy to dig)
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« Reply #462 on: April 12, 2014, 04:43:14 pm »

It was actually China (since it's their border), but I think Russia may have loaned some fighters and maybe pilots, I dunno.
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« Reply #463 on: April 12, 2014, 04:50:00 pm »

You are talking about Korean war, I am talking about immediately after the WW2 situation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_Korea - Yep, Russian troops were present
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« Reply #464 on: April 12, 2014, 04:51:54 pm »

If that will happen April 20 I think is very fitting date.

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