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[Ottofar]

Tiruin's Post

Re: Statistics. I'm not going to the statistics thing again. We did it in some BYOR, about miller-claiming being a towntell, if I recall correctly. It ate up the whole day one. The original millerclaim was, not surprisingly, town, and when the statistics were brought up Dariush, scum, claimed one himself. He was scum.

It's somewhat beside the point, I admit, but statistics are correct when they're used on as well-known scumtell as that one.

Re: Genders, sorry. My native language is Finnish with gender-neutral pronouns, so I usually default to "he" without thinking about it.

Re: Killclaim, wait where?
Re: Disputing the force and things, how exactly. What.
Re: List of reads. Individual reads don't really matter at this point. because:
Re: Appeal to audience, there's no need to pressure you any further, because Mastahcheese has cleared himself and Shakerag's died already.

Re: Stalkerclaim vs Copclaim. I said, atleast I thought I did that at first you claimed a sane cop and nothing else. Then you revised the claim to contain a kill, to imply that with you living the day town's victory will be inevitable.

Re: Singling me out, could you explain your train of thought there, again? You were disabled, or what.

Re: Dubious part. You're, again, trivializing and belittling my arguments instead of providing a real defense.

Mastah's post

Re: Believing you. I don't believe you because you pardoned Tiruin. I believe you because you could've ended the day by lynching me but you didn't. That makes you clear, in my eyes. Get it? You could've quickhammered, there was an opening. You didn't take it, because you weren't sure about my alignment.  If Tiruin would've been in the same situation she'd have hammered me right away. You didn't. That is why I think you are town.

Please, read the day once more, or twice. Think.

[Shakerag]

Ottofar:

On Tiruin, well. First vote in LyLo is often scum.

It wasn't LyLo when Tiruin first voted.


Tiruin:

However I wonder why I chose to reveal that I had Stalker in the first place rather than reveal that Oh hey Sane Cop!
And no, I only know Toaster's alignment.

Because it's an excellent alibi if you're KM.  You claim an inspect/kill role?  If you're scum, you can claim you inspected someone last night (because you'd know everyone else is town) when you actually killed.  If someone pegs you as a killer overnight, well, you've got a killing role.


mastahcheese:  Which of these two goons, in your opinion, do you think would have killed off NQT?

[Tiruin]

Re: Statistics. I'm not going to the statistics thing again. We did it in some BYOR, about miller-claiming being a towntell, if I recall correctly. It ate up the whole day one. The original millerclaim was, not surprisingly, town, and when the statistics were brought up Dariush, scum, claimed one himself. He was scum.

Statistics ignores the human aspect.
I'm speaking in this context of our personalities. Of our principles. Of what we bring to this argument.
It does not hold in my case--is what I'm saying.
^{And no, you can't concisely conclude because 'x happened before SO SCUM'}

It's somewhat beside the point, I admit, but statistics are correct when they're used on as well-known scumtell as that one.

Problem: Viewpoint.
You see it as a scumtell? I see it as my being assertive because I've found the final piece of this puzzle (see: Later)

Re: Genders, sorry. My native language is Finnish with gender-neutral pronouns, so I usually default to "he" without thinking about it.

Finland!

Re: Killclaim, wait where?

>Stalker

Re: Disputing the force and things, how exactly. What.

> NQT should've acted yesterday.
I claim he hit me.
(Wherein The Force is a reference to Star Wars and the origin of the Jedi...which stems from eastern culture and the samurai...anyways)

Re: List of reads. Individual reads don't really matter at this point. because:
Re: Appeal to audience, there's no need to pressure you any further, because Mastahcheese has cleared himself and Shakerag's died already.

Yes it does really matter. You're trying not to convince me, but mastahcheese (and Shakerag, but he's a fish.)
Don't you think your view on them matters to be known?

Re: Stalkerclaim vs Copclaim. I said, atleast I thought I did that at first you claimed a sane cop and nothing else. Then you revised the claim to contain a kill, to imply that with you living the day town's victory will be inevitable.

...Yes.
And?
If you were both town, I'd still have the choice of poking at mastahcheese, or you. No difference in either (in which I threw suspicion to the wind earlier when poking at Mr. Cheese) Why?
The KotM has only few differences:
> Always shows up on inspect no matter what modifier.
> Has the Factional kill alongside the role picked
> SK-wincon

Re: Singling me out, could you explain your train of thought there, again? You were disabled, or what.

Yoop!
And either/or, if you're town then that means Cheese is scum--we know his role as it is undisputed (and/or someone made a hybrid that resurrects me :v) so I can at best infer that nothing is to stop me from killing Cheese if he's scum: something which he'd very well best likely commit towards me if he was the KM due to my stance.

Re: Dubious part. You're, again, trivializing and belittling my arguments instead of providing a real defense.

:O
I never said you lacked and had a trivial argument to begin with.
I'm saying you didn't have any.
[/lannister]
And started on a generalization instead.

Mastah's post

Re: Believing you. I don't believe you because you pardoned Tiruin. I believe you because you could've ended the day by lynching me but you didn't. That makes you clear, in my eyes. Get it? You could've quickhammered, there was an opening. You didn't take it, because you weren't sure about my alignment.  If Tiruin would've been in the same situation she'd have hammered me right away. You didn't. That is why I think you are town.

Please, read the day once more, or twice. Think.

Err, how?

[ToonyMan]

Votecount (3 votes to hammer):

Ottofar: Tiruin, Mastahcheese (2)
Tiruin: Ottofar (1)
Not voting: Shakerag (1)


Day ends in about 50 hours.

[Tiruin]

Oh right. Ottofar

[Shakerag]

^{And no, you can't concisely conclude because 'x happened before SO SCUM'}

Urge to shovel ... rising.

[Shakerag]

*sigh*

mastahcheese

unvote

[mastahcheese]

mastahcheese:  Which of these two goons, in your opinion, do you think would have killed off NQT?

I don't think that Tiruin would have killed NQT, I think she would've went for someone else, knowing her.
She gets into enough arguments with him over his methods that her killing him isn't something I see her doing.
Yeah, that doesn't probably make sense in that context, but that's because I'm bad with words.

Ottofar, on the other hand, I can't say for sure, so I think it's more likely to be him.

In any case, I've already said my peace, so that's what I'm going with, I took my chance with saving her, so if I made a huge mistake, than I deserve it.

[Shakerag]

Meh, fuck it.

Ottofar

[mastahcheese]

Meh, fuck it.

Ottofar

I thought you couldn't vote?

[ToonyMan]

this just in

SHAKERAG CAN VOTE

THAT'S HAMMER

[ToonyMan]

Votecount (3 votes to hammer):

Ottofar: Tiruin, Mastahcheese, Shakerag (3)
Tiruin: Ottofar (1)


Shakerag shrugs heavily and raises his mighty mallet up before whacking Ottofar, who explodes into millions of goo globs.

Everybody gets sticky and goes to take a shower.

"How disappointing. Looks like a new round will have to be made."


Ottofar has been lynched!

He was a Yellow Goo (mafia) and KING MAFIA.

Round 1 is now over.


When the remaining players return, they notice a few more presences...

"I have added additional players to make the game as it should be, may the round began anew and strike true."

4maskwolf has joined the game.

TheWetSheep has joined the game.

Powder Miner has joined the game.

Notquitethere 2.0 has joined the game.

A new KING MAFIA has been chosen!


Round 2 has started!

It is Night 2, send in your actions within 24 hours!

Kills are allowed!

[ToonyMan]

You find Tiruin on the ground, again.

They're also dead, again. Their head is all over the floor and walls. (no this doesn't mean they can't be revived)

Tiruin was a Stalker (town).


Day 3 has begun! Day 3 ends on April 17th around 9PM EST!

It takes 4 votes to hammer somebody, good luck.

EDIT:
Last night should have been Night 2, not Night 3. My apologies.

[mastahcheese]

...Dang it, I couldn't save her from that.

Will post more later, busy right now.

[notquitethere]

Okay, just reading back on the day I missed. I didn't learn anything last night. Also, my Jedi results were Yellow Goo and Robot, both of whom are now dead. I targeted Shakerag with a disable both nights that I was a Jedi: the first time because I knew nothing and I took him to be the biggest threat as a player, the second time because I knew he wasn't Yellow Goo.