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Duke Knight's Momentum is up for revision? Which version of the skill would you prefer?

Current one, unchanged.
+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.
Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.
I don't know but I want to see the results.

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« Reply #4380 on: July 24, 2019, 12:38:15 pm »

Yeah, effectively you might as well change all the skills in the game that add DR to instead add DEF/RES if it was kept before critical hit calculations.

EDIT: Never mind, had to go rethink what I said here and I wasn't quite accurate.

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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4381 on: July 24, 2019, 03:52:42 pm »

How many neck-and-neck polls in a row is this, now? :P
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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4382 on: July 24, 2019, 04:18:14 pm »

Keep in mind that if that happens, we may get enemies that are next to impossible to harm.
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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4383 on: July 24, 2019, 04:32:46 pm »

Keep in mind that if that happens, we may get enemies that are next to impossible to harm.

Enemy balance isn't going to be ruined by the addition of a defensive mechanic.

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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4384 on: July 24, 2019, 04:53:51 pm »

A defensive mechanic that already existed before :v
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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4385 on: August 06, 2019, 09:42:58 am »

DR will stay a separate thing by 8-7 vote.

Now I wanted to probe the opinion on the Mage skill Arcane Barrier. It was theorized before the new Wind subcategory so the effects each subcategory has is a bit outdated now. At the very least we want to make it so it provides DR regardless of tome used and slightly buff the amount it gives. But while we do that might as well ask if any other alternatives on its working are preferred.

You'll notice one of the options is switching with Scholar's Assessment. I thought of this since Scholar promotes to either a defensive class (Baron) or a jack of all stats (Virtuoso), while Mage promotes to a pure offense class (Mage Knight) and an offense/support class (Sage), so it may fit better for people going Scholar than Mage. If the switch happens Virtuoso might get a slight tweak in their class skill as well.
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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4386 on: August 18, 2019, 01:24:21 pm »

Scholar and Mage will switch skills in 2.3, and it will probably reflect on Virtuoso.

Now for a completely different poll: we've noticed the lockpicks are a bit of a drag to keep in mind, personally I have forgotten to give them sometimes and just resorted to giving them out whenever they're needed. So the idea here would be making it so lockpicks as item disappear and units that could use lockpicks just have to use an action to unlock stuff (like Rogue currently does).
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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4387 on: August 18, 2019, 08:32:05 pm »

The more recent games do away with Lockpicks in favour of the ability Locktouch, and I think it's an improvement.
Lockpick management is less interesting than weapon durability, something that some GMs here discard (admittedly, mostly for enemies)
If we really want a "better" lockpicking class, we could give it canto after unlocking, and/or have unlocking be a free action.

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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4388 on: August 18, 2019, 08:58:12 pm »

I don't love taking away one of Rogue's skills when their other one isn't spectacular. Are we going to give them anything else?

Also, thieves already get canto after stealing or using lockpicks.
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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4389 on: August 19, 2019, 02:30:54 am »

Rogues having unlocking as free action or them getting Critical Eye are options on the table.
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« Reply #4390 on: August 19, 2019, 08:54:31 am »

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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4391 on: August 19, 2019, 03:47:12 pm »

So now every Lockpick unit doesn't need an actual lockpick. What do we give Rogues?
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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4392 on: August 19, 2019, 03:57:42 pm »

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4:52 PM] BMM42: I voted for Loot and Run because having Steal become a sub ability to Mug is kind of weaksauce and I'm not about that. I'd rather make Stealing itself more good by having it cause nyoom
[4:53 PM] BMM42: Critical Eye is fine, but Rogue is the utility promo so it's kind of odd for them to get a combat centric ability when we have other options availble
[4:54 PM] BMM42: And really, to me, Mug would be uninteresting in practice
[4:55 PM] BMM42: Why steal when you can steal and do damage?

Also Hatkitty suggested the name "Loot and Scoot" and I'm all about that.

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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is in the works!
« Reply #4393 on: August 19, 2019, 04:40:15 pm »

Alternatively, I suggest "Highway Robbery" as a name for Loot & Run.
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Re: The Fire Emblem on Forums Hub! Handbook v2.3 is here!
« Reply #4394 on: September 14, 2019, 01:38:05 pm »

Rogue will get Loot and Run Scoot and now the Handbook 2.3 is finally done!

Get your units here:
Normal book: https://www.dropbox.com/s/df0xrgdkvkmk359/Players%20Handbook%20v2.3.pdf?raw=1
Abridged book: https://www.dropbox.com/s/n89le2l97u53ju7/Players%20Handbook%20v2.3%20Abridged.pdf?raw=1
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