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Duke Knight's Momentum is up for revision? Which version of the skill would you prefer?

Current one, unchanged.
+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.
Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.
I don't know but I want to see the results.

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« Reply #4200 on: June 24, 2018, 01:22:11 pm »

How does it interact with Fortune?
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« Reply #4201 on: June 24, 2018, 01:24:01 pm »

That'll be the next poll. Whether Fortune overrides Quixotic or Quixotic overrides Fortune, and if the DMG option comes on top maybe if Fortune only nullifies the crit part. But the bonuses have to stay the same for both combatants.
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« Reply #4202 on: June 24, 2018, 01:25:24 pm »

So after this vote we'll need to determine how Fortune interacts with the skill. Assuming that the skill only provides crit, Fortune will likely need to 'deactivate' when Quixotic is activated.

The other options are likely to be Fortune functioning normally (possibly viable on a damage and crit Quixotic but pretty overpowered if its Crit only), or for the most bizarre version, Fortune and Quixotic interacting so that the enemy has a base critical chance of what is granted by Quixotic that can not be modified.

Anyway I'm pushing for DAM and Crit to avoid having weird skill interaction.

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« Reply #4203 on: June 24, 2018, 07:49:33 pm »

where’s the option for quixotic granting hit + crit
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« Reply #4204 on: June 24, 2018, 07:50:57 pm »

Only in your dreams, apparently.
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« Reply #4205 on: June 24, 2018, 07:53:25 pm »

where’s the option for quixotic granting hit + crit

No one suggested it which makes a lot of sense considering that Templar is going to have lance and light, both of which are pretty reasonably accurate but could stand to gain damage.

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« Reply #4206 on: June 25, 2018, 07:13:51 am »

+3 DMG and +15 Crit option wins! Now to see how it interacts with Fortune.
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« Reply #4207 on: June 25, 2018, 07:20:12 am »

Quixotic at this stage has enough going on in terms of damage that I think its fair for Fortune to not need a special interaction with it, which is what I voted for. If Fortune absolutely cannot be permitted to work normally, I would favor the 'set enemy crit to 15' option instead, so that having Fortune doesn't become a waste if someone wants to use the Templar's abilities.

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« Reply #4208 on: June 25, 2018, 09:56:54 am »

I have a real problem with Fortune working normally because that's a huge buff to the skill. It completely removes a big chunk of the downside to the skill making it a lot more powerful. I'm pretty clearly going to lose this debate but I still feel like allowing someone to take a good skill and then completely negate the bigger part of the skill is not great since crit has a chance to do a lot more damage than the +3 damage
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« Reply #4209 on: June 25, 2018, 09:57:38 am »

Jesus Christ, that many people want Fortune to work normally?
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« Reply #4210 on: June 25, 2018, 10:01:53 am »

Worth pointing out that most of the balancing factor around Quixotic is the huge risk factor behind it, and the power of the skill in regard to tanky builds was already highlighted as a potential issue. Allowing Fortune to work normally will make it essentially a must-have for Templar characters, as the only skill that would come close to competing with it in utility would be Vantage, which is cost and therefore difficult to work into a mixed-class build.
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« Reply #4211 on: June 25, 2018, 10:17:21 am »

Well it isn't cost anymore but yeah. I'm glad someone was able to express my thoughts so much better than I was :v
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« Reply #4212 on: June 25, 2018, 10:47:27 am »

I think I'm gonna remove that last option because it goes against the "equal bonuses" core of the skill :v
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« Reply #4213 on: June 26, 2018, 08:02:24 am »

We'll leave Fortune working normally until we see if it's unbalanced.

Next up is Warrior: should Rough and Tumble be equated to LMYS? Let's start working on that.
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« Reply #4214 on: June 26, 2018, 08:07:19 am »



This is an illustration depicting the number of available spaces for enemies to occupy to activate Rough and Tumble at a 3 tile radius. Note that if a 4 tile radius were to be used, it would cover 40 spaces.
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