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Duke Knight's Momentum is up for revision? Which version of the skill would you prefer?

Current one, unchanged.
+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.
Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.
I don't know but I want to see the results.

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« Reply #4155 on: June 19, 2018, 02:26:28 pm »

So just to be totally clear on the proposed change:

Adjacent allies get +3 DR
The Sentinel themself gets +1 DR and +1 AS per adjacent ally.

Is that correct?
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« Reply #4156 on: June 19, 2018, 02:38:34 pm »

So just to be totally clear on the proposed change:

Adjacent allies get +3 DR
The Sentinel themself gets +1 DR and +1 AS per adjacent ally.

Is that correct?

Yes.

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« Reply #4157 on: June 19, 2018, 02:50:26 pm »

Sounds good to me, in that case.
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« Reply #4158 on: June 19, 2018, 02:54:59 pm »

Sentinel change approved.

Now a Shadow Sword thing. Since Fencer doesn't have sneaking anymore their Shadow Strike skill goes. So here's a change for Marked for Death poll.

New version: As an action, the shadow sword can designate one enemy unit as 'marked'. All friendly units, including the shadow sword, gain 2 DAM, 10 crit, and 10 hit against the marked unit. If the shadow sword reduces their marked opponent to 0 hp, they may choose another target to mark without using an action. If the Shadow Sword is reduced to 0 HP, their current marked unit is no longer marked. Only one unit can be marked at any time.
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« Reply #4159 on: June 19, 2018, 03:00:12 pm »

Point of order: people who aren't me wanted the 'ignores terrain' part of shadow sword to remain so we can do a separate poll after this one to address that


New Marked For Death deals with the one and done nature of old shadow sword by restricting initial placement and subsequent placement while also down playing the bonus from the skill slightly. But now you can do it a bunch of times.

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« Reply #4160 on: June 19, 2018, 03:00:56 pm »

What was the original Marked for Death? For those folks without access to pdfs.
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« Reply #4161 on: June 19, 2018, 03:07:51 pm »

What was the original Marked for Death? For those folks without access to pdfs.

The bonuses were +3 DAM and +15 hit and +10 crit, and it didn't cost an action to apply, but could only be applied once.

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« Reply #4162 on: June 19, 2018, 03:12:13 pm »

Another question: what's the range on this mark? Can the Shadow Sword mark the boss from clear across the map?
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« Reply #4163 on: June 19, 2018, 03:16:21 pm »

Another question: what's the range on this mark? Can the Shadow Sword mark the boss from clear across the map?

There is no range limitation on the mark.

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« Reply #4164 on: June 19, 2018, 03:16:39 pm »

Yeah, but unless the party is all split up marking from across the map doesn't produce any benefits v:
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« Reply #4165 on: June 19, 2018, 03:18:59 pm »

I get that. I just think it should be stated somewhere that the mark has no maximum range, to avoid confusion.
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« Reply #4166 on: June 19, 2018, 03:38:16 pm »

I get that. I just think it should be stated somewhere that the mark has no maximum range, to avoid confusion.

I would say that the range is not specified and it not being an attack makes indefinite range the default assumption

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« Reply #4167 on: June 20, 2018, 03:37:04 pm »

New Marked for Death is approved!

Now it's Swordmaster's turn. We gave them an evade bonus equal to the damage they deal in a hit, and now it's being debated if Single Stroke is too much with it.
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« Reply #4168 on: June 20, 2018, 03:49:04 pm »

Actually before that we're gonna do a quick question about Faster Than The Eye.
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« Reply #4169 on: June 20, 2018, 03:56:51 pm »

So there's essentially two schools of thought here: Permitting highest damage from any attack to turn out, which makes the output of the skill significantly more reliable and reduces the likelihood of the Swordmaster having a dead skill on a phase. It also makes the skill more useful defensively in situations where the Swordmaster can't make an attack on their turn.

Second school of thought only permits damage from the Player Phase, in order to avoid stacking with Leaf on the Wind. This is on the basis that the resulting eva bonuses could go too high to be reasonable.

Of course, giving up one counterattack *does* reduce the output for Faster than the Eye in the first place, and I think its more worthwhile to allow occasional stacking.
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