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Current one, unchanged.

+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.

Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.

I don't know but I want to see the results.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Well I'm kind of addressing the tanky mage thing with the Ascetic class, so that's no longer an entirely unfilled niche.

[SOLDIER First]

I would posit that one class does not a niche fill.

[Chevaleresse]

Oh, I'd assumed that the mini-baron was going to be a single weapon class.

Well, all the currently slated promotes are mixed, so they'd have to give up any hope of being good with their future phys weapons in order to hit the same raw power as their Knight cousins.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Well I'm kind of addressing the tanky mage thing with the Ascetic class, so that's no longer an entirely unfilled niche.

Right. I forgot about that. That's good then. I personally would make a new promoted class for them that is focused more on tanking too but they certainly work as is.

I would posit that one class does not a niche fill.

Depends on the size of the niche. Tanky Magic User is probably a big enough niche to hold several classes but that doesn't mean it must be filled by several classes. One or two could easily work.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Oh, I'd assumed that the mini-baron was going to be a single weapon class.

Well, all the currently slated promotes are mixed, so they'd have to give up any hope of being good with their future phys weapons in order to hit the same raw power as their Knight cousins.

Or do a center build, but I suppose I see your point in this instance.

It would probably make more sense for them to be, hypothetically, Anima/Lances or somesuch.

So they would be an anima trainee promotion then?

[SOLDIER First]

Sure, that could work.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Spoiler: Updated mage stuff (click to show/hide)

Mage becomes-
Mage: Same as before

Battle Mage: Weapon levels: Anima (D), Lance (D)
Armor mage boi
Class Skill: Armored, Supress: Enemies adjacent to this unit suffer -2 final damage.
Promotes to: Baron,

Tactitian: Weapon Levels: Anima (D), one anima subcategory (C)
The tactician isn't just an accomplished magician, but also a strategically minded agent of war. Directing his allies to best effect, the Tactician leads the way to victory.
Class Skill: Press the Assault: Once per turn, when the Tactician reduces an enemy to 0 HP, they may select an ally within 3 spaces. That ally may act again as if they were subject to a performance.
Promotes to: Commander, Sage

Monk becomes:
Monk: same as before

Lightworker: Weapon levels: Staff (D), Light (D)
Lightworkers recognize that while their magic is useful and formidable, it is not limitless, and more can be done through a combination of tomes and staves than either alone. Whether they heal the sick or punish the wicked is determined only by which problem lays before them at any given time.
Class Skill: Duality: If the Lightworker used a staff last, +2 MAG. If the Lightworker used a tome last, +15 Evasion.
Promotes to: Bishop,

Ascetic: Light (D), Light (C)
The Ascetic is a warrior first, using the power of light magic in service of their home, village, or nation. I don't fucking know man, but this is like the aggro monk path
Class Skill: Shield of Faith: When this unit deals damage, they gain +1DEF/RES, up to a maximum of 5. This bonus resets to 0 at the beginning of the unit's phase.
Promotes to: Crusader, Inquisitor

Shaman becomes:
Shaman: Same

Necromancer: Weapon Levels: Dark: D, subcat: C
Where the Shaman pursues power for its own sake, the Necromancer desires power for a specific purpose. The Necromancer wants for only one thing: To defeat death. To this end, he will pursue any kernel of knowledge that seems as if it would lead him to his goal.
Class Skill: Draw Life: The Necromancer recovers 10% of any damage they deal as health.
Promotes to: Summoner, Dark Rider

Scholar: Dark D, Anima D
The scholar knows that knowledge is a water drawn best from many wells, and works tirelessly to broaden his studies. Combining his training with Dark Magic with the school of Anima, the Scholar is not only knowledgable, but also skilled in battle.
Class Skill: Assessment: After the scholar makes a successful hit on a target, allied units gain +5 hit, eva, and crit against the target until the end of the phase.
Promotes to: Baron, Virtuoso




New Promotions:

Virtuoso: Dark B, Anima B, Light B
The Virtuoso is a skilled and experienced practitioner of all forms of magic save the staff, and their experience shows upon the field of battle. Moreover, their studies expand beyond simple magic: Tactics, Anatomy, History: The Virtuoso is well read in most any area of academic study.
Class Skill: -Name-: If the Virtuoso enters combat with an enemy, and that enemy dies during the same phase, the Virtuoso gains a bonus based on the type of weapon they used while fighting that enemy.
Dark: +3 DAM
Light: +15 Crit
Anima: +15 Hit/Eva
Promotes from: Scholar

Dark Rider: S rank Dark etc
Class Skill: Horseback, Dismount, Canto, Lifesteal: When this unit reduces an enemy to 0 HP, recover 50% Max HP
Promotes from: Necromancer

Baron: -Weapon Levels under discussion-
Class Skill: Armored, Runic Armor: When this unit is hit by an attack and doesn't take damage, they gain a +2 Damage bonus, up to +6. At the beginning of this unit's phase, the bonus is reduced by 1 to a minimum of 0.
Promotes from: Scholar, Tactician

[Blade Master Model 42]

Last magic class revamp, pending insertion into the coming game version

Spoiler: Updated mage stuff (click to show/hide)

Mage Trainee is removed and replaced with:
Anima Trainee: Anima: E
Starting Weapon: Fire -or- Wind
Pref stats: SKL/MAG

Promotes to: Mage, Tactician

HP: 17 STR: 0 MAG: 5 SKL: 4 LUK: 2 DEF: 0 RES: 3 SPD: 4 CON: 4 AID: 3 MOV: 4

Dark Trainee: Dark: E
Starting Weapon: Flux -or- Worm
Pref Stats: MAG/SKL

Promotes to: Shaman, Necromancer, Scholar

HP: 18 STR: 0 MAG: 5 SKL: 5 LUK: 0 DEF: 0 RES: 3 SPD: 3 CON: 5 AID: 4 MOV: 4

Light Trainee:
Weapon Proficiency: Light: E
Starting Weapon: Lightning -or- Flash
Pref Stats: MAG, LUK

Promotes to: Monk, Ascetic

HP: 16 STR: 0 MAG: 4 SKL: 3 LUK: 3 DEF: 1 RES: 4 SPD: 4 CON: 4 AID: 3 MOV: 4


Mage becomes-
Mage: Same as before

Tactitian: Weapon Levels: Anima (D), one anima subcategory (C)
The tactician isn't just an accomplished magician, but also a strategically minded agent of war. Directing his allies to best effect, the Tactician leads the way to victory.
Class Skill: Press the Assault: Once per turn, when the Tactician reduces an enemy to 0 HP, they may select an ally within 3 spaces. That ally may act again as if they were subject to a performance.
Preferred Stats: SKL, SPD
Promotes to: Commander, Baron

Base stats: HP: 20 STR: 1 MAG: 5 SKL: 3 LUK: 2 DEF: 3 RES: 3 SPD: 5 CON: 5 AID: 4 MOV: 5

Promo bonuses: HP: +1 STR: +0 MAG: +2 SKL: +2 LUK+: 0 DEF: +1 RES: +2 SPD:+1 CON:+1 AID:+1 MOV: 5

Monk becomes:
Monk: same as before

Ascetic: Light (D), Subcategory (C)
The Ascetic is a warrior first, using the power of light magic in service of their home, village, or nation. I don't fucking know man, but this is like the aggro monk path
Class Skill: Shield of Faith: When this unit deals damage, they gain +1DEF/RES, up to a maximum of 5. This bonus resets to 0 at the beginning of the unit's phase.
Preferred stats: RES/DEF
Promotes to: Crusader, Inquisitor

Base stats: HP: 21 STR: 0 MAG: 4 SKL: 3 LUK: 4 DEF: 4 RES: 4 SPD: 5 CON: 5 AID: 4 MOV: 5

Promo bonuses: HP: +3 STR: +0 MAG: +1 SKL: +1 LUK: +1 DEF: +2 RES: +2 SPD: +0 CON: +1 AID: +1 MOV: 5

Shaman becomes:
Shaman: Same

Necromancer: Weapon Levels: Dark: D, subcat: C
Where the Shaman pursues power for its own sake, the Necromancer desires power for a specific purpose. The Necromancer wants for only one thing: To defeat death. To this end, he will pursue any kernel of knowledge that seems as if it would lead him to his goal.
Class Skill: Draw Life: The Necromancer recovers 10% of any damage they deal as health.
Preferred Stats: MAG, HP
Promotes to: Summoner, Dark Rider

Base stats: HP: 22 STR: 0 MAG: 6 SKL: 4 LUK: 0 DEF: 2 RES: 4 SPD: 4 CON: 7 AID: 6 MOV: 5

Promo Bonuses: HP: +3 STR: +0 MAG: +2 SKL: +1 LUK: +0 DEF: +1 RES: +1 SPD: +0 CON: +2 AID: +2 MOV: 5

Scholar: Dark D, Anima D
The scholar knows that knowledge is a water drawn best from many wells, and works tirelessly to broaden his studies. Combining his training with Dark Magic with the school of Anima, the Scholar is not only knowledgable, but also skilled in battle.
Class Skill: Assessment: After the scholar makes a successful hit on a target, allied units gain +5 hit, eva, and crit against the target until the end of the phase.
Preferred Stats: SKL, MAG
Promotes to: Baron, Virtuoso

Base stats: HP: 18 STR: 0 MAG: 6 SKL: 6 LUK: 3 DEF: 1 RES: 3 SPD: 6 CON: 6 AID: 5 MOV: 5

Promo Bonuses: HP: +0 STR: +0 MAG: +2 SKL: +2 LUK: +0 DEF: +1 RES: +1 SPD: +1 CON: +2 AID: +2 MOV: 5


New Promotions:

Virtuoso: Dark Subcat: B, Anima Subcategory: B, Light Subcategory: B, Dark: C, Anima: C, Light, C
The Virtuoso is a skilled and experienced practitioner of all forms of magic save the staff, and their experience shows upon the field of battle. Moreover, their studies expand beyond simple magic: Tactics, Anatomy, History; The Virtuoso is well read in most any area of academic study.
Class Skill: Fruits of Study: If the Virtuoso enters combat with an enemy, and that enemy dies during the same phase, the Virtuoso gains a bonus based on the type of weapon they used while fighting that enemy until the beginning of their next phase.
Dark: +3 DAM
Light: +15 Crit
Anima: +15 Hit/Eva
Preferred Stats: SKL, MAG
Promotes from: Scholar (Guiding Ring)

Promo Bonuses: HP: +1 STR: +0 MAG: +3 SKL: +3 LUK: +0 DEF: +0 RES: +2 SPD: +2 CON: +4 AID: +4 MOV: 6

Dark Rider: Dark: C, Dark Subcategory: A, Lance: C, Lance Subcategory: A
The Dark Riders are powerful necromancers atop terrible steeds, riding into battle as reapers to cut short the lives of lesser men. With every life stolen, they seek to extend their own, and rely on both dark magic and lances to get the job done.
Class Skill: Horseback, Dismount, Canto, Lifesteal: When this unit reduces an enemy to 0 HP, recover 50% Max HP
Promotes from: Necromancer (contract doodad)
Preferred stats: STR, MAG
Promo Bonuses: HP: +3 STR: +2 MAG: +1 SKL: +2 LUK: +0 DEF: +1 RES: +1 SPD: +2 CON: +3 AID: +3 MOV: 6

Baron: Anima: C, Anima Subcategory: A, Dark: C, Dark Subcategory: A OR Anima: C, Anima Subcategory: A, Light: C, Light Subcategory: A
The Baron is a magician who has learned the difficult practice of armored spellcasting. Through disciplined training, they wield complicated magics from behind a layer of steel, and turn the force they absorb through that steel into devastating magical attacks.
Class Skill: Armored, Runic Armor: When this unit is hit by an attack and doesn't take damage, they gain a +2 Damage bonus, up to +6. At the beginning of this unit's phase, the bonus is reduced by 1 to a minimum of 0.
Pref Stats: RES, DEF
Promotes from: Scholar, Tactician

Promo Bonuses: HP: +0 STR: +0 MAG: +2 SKL: +1 LUK: +0 DEF: +3 RES: +3 SPD: +2 CON: +3 AID: +3 MOV: 6

[Unlurking Sentinel]

So I had some ideas for an additional Anima class line that stick more to the whole "Nature Magic" theme Anima is given in the books.

Spoiler: Bad Ideas (click to show/hide)

Elementalist
Weapon Levels: Anima (D), Anima Subcat (C)
A hermit with a close relationship to the nature spirits from whom Anima draws from, who prefers to call aid from them to controlling them.
Class Skill: Levitation, Ally of Nature: Enemies within three spaces of this unit recieve -5 hit/avo, from the environment inconveniencing them.
Promotes to: Thaumaturge, Mage Knight

Thaumaturge
Weapon Levels: Anima (C), Light (C), Anima Subcat (A), Light Subcat (A)
A prophet of the old faiths, the Thaumaturge travels to aid nature, and in turn, is given the power to aid humanity similarly. They are a miracle worker, able to bring rain to crops and safe weather for travel, but just as willing to bring plagues to those who spark enmity with nature.
Class Skill: Levitation,
Cloud Nine: This unit is unaffected by weather effects.
Command Weather: Once per turn, this unit can select a 3x3 area whose center is within a range of Mag/2. This area is now under a weather effect of this unit's choosing, or has no weather effect at all, until the beginning of the user's next turn. Use of this ability doesn't use an action, and cannot be used to undo the effects caused by another unit's use of this ability.
Promotes from: Elementalist

[Swordstar]

Ally of Nature looks like the mini daunt skill that performers had that no one liked and Cloud Nine looks like the old peg rider skill that got removed because no one likes weather... I'm also really cautious of putting someone in that encourages weather changes just because of how much weather sucks for everyone involved

[Solymr]

New poll based on deciding the name of a thing.

[SOLDIER First]

first

[Elephant Parade]

PTW

[GM_3826]

PTW.

[Solymr]

Mordhau appears to be the winning name!

On that note, I believe it should be 5 Crit for 1 Damage based on the next math analysis:

Let's say you have 10 Crit (after dodge) and deal 10 damage. On a hit, 90% of the times it will be 10 damage and 10% of the time it will be 30 damage, the expected value being 10*0.9+30*0.1=12 damage. Therefore for this example 10 Crit is equivalent to 2 damage across many attacks.

For 10 Crit to be equivalent to 1 damage, you'd need to deal 5 damage, which is pretty crappy to begin with. Over 10 damage, even 5:1 means you're losing damage on the long run. Granted, on practice it works a bit different.

But also, PS wise 10 Crit and 2 damage are equivalent, and even if an equal value trade on command is strong, it's pretty much necessary for Mordhau to be anything more than a fringe skill. We're talking about turning the chance of a crit into reliable damage.