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Current one, unchanged.

+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.

Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.

I don't know but I want to see the results.

[SOLDIER First]

Don't do this. Mistake.

[Tiruin]

So I'm a *fishie out of water *little brown mouse, for being totally late o_o
My goal was to make it feel immersive (like how games progressed over the years).

Planning to submit my planned FEF draft here but I'm very, very shy due to adding many new stuffs that it may not seem like a FEF. >_>

I once tried to run one about magical girls dying in a tower with no stat caps, all actions processed in one go, and instadeath at 0 HP. It still attracted a full roster and saddened everyone involved by instantly dying. The game, I mean, not the characters. The game had to live for the characters to die.

The point is you'll be fine.

This filled me with GREAT DETERMINATION. c:
...Thanks for believing in me .-.

Planning to submit my planned FEF draft here but I'm very, very shy due to adding many new stuffs that it may not seem like a FEF. >_>

So...Haspen has a very good point I'm a total newbie GM (though with a lot of probably-imbalanced ideas) and have not ever finished a FEF to the end, am possibly inexperienced in mid-game mechanics changes, and totally unsure on how to stat/balance custom classes not-in-the-handbook.

Problems due to newbieship:
> May be putting too much detail due to lacking experience//focused idealism.
> Page 20; Handbook 1.3
   -- *I'm...honestly unsure about what the stat limit means for first/second class//trainees ._.
   ++ What I do understand is that the stat limits are for...class progression and limitation. What I do NOT understand is why is there a cap on the second class.
> Page 20; 30; 54
   -- I have no idea how to create custom classes, or change a class in-handbook (because there are no pegasus riders in the world I'm working with), OR diversify a class from a changed custom class! D:
> I'm wondering if I can make a third class. Something that is gotten from training or mastery within the world. From feats or secrets. It'll basically just be a second class, but an added PS or name and a few + to stats.
> Money! I don't know how to price custom items! D:
> The Pegasus Rider is removed and changed into a bird-type mount who I lack a name for. (Which is really inspired by the film: Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind. Credit to GUNINANRUNIN for poking me about the existence of Chocobos, and me missing half my life of not playing the Final Fantasy genre :v)
> I am unsure how large a map may be. Generally.
> I am uncertain whether a +/-5 is a significant amount when pertaining to Hit/Evade, or QL, as I plan to modify items and such due to these.
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Plans:
> Use Handbook 1.3.
> Tons of renaming ._.

Spoiler: Maybe I should just go with a vanilla FEF given all these renamings...as they're {mostly} aesthetic ;_; (click to show/hide)

> "Magic" is replaced with "Aetherics" coming from the idea of the "Aether" {Physics}
> "Magic" is still a word, referring to Divine Energy.
> Many weapons being renamed to other terms (ie Hatchet > Throwing Axes) and given tiny changes to their stats

Hatchet      | Thrw (E) | 1-2 | 5 | 4 | 85 | 5 | 35
Throwing Axe | Thrw (E) | 1-2 | 5 | 4 | 90 | 5 | 30

> "Dark" Category of Magic is renamed into Quintessence...Many names renamed because Dark isn't evil/bad sounding :v...
~~~
[...]etc along those lines

> Long-ish Campaign .-.
   -- Which leads me to be thinking about a third-class (as seen above) because of how long it may be. :v I don't really know the exact scope.
   -- Also referring to the possibility of branching arcs. Like, due to my newbieness, I may generate a whole NPC team to kill y'all by accident and hello TPK. Usually this won't result in a TPK and it becomes a whole new path.
   -- Starts with Trainee ranks; waitlist players joining post-first class get trainee level bonuses just like as if they were already in game, but somewhere else.
> Player interaction with the game world. As characters have backstories in the character sheet, this is expounded into a biography; Players are given a choice in the OOC on which major nation to begin with. This designates their starting location of origin--all have backgrounds of training with weaponry. {Planned: 2 Choices}
   -- After the choice is done, they can pick from any countries, provinces, or city-states mentioned, even if it comes from the other major country-area [however it should be noted, they are foreigners in such a way]. All areas of mention have different social and cultural backgrounds, which in game mechanics mean a tiny change to their character's stats. Both major nations play a role in the planned story to come, even if any of their people will possibly never see each other!
   --- Bonuses probably mean a major/minor choice. The Major Nation's bonuses only apply to the players. The Major/Minor choice can cover anything from a stat bonus (with a total of +3 spread out), or a minor modification to specific class skills (ie Daunt has +15 to its effect).

INDUSTRIAL COUNTRY #1 ++ Major Bonus Flavor Text Name {eg (INDUSTRIAL_NAME) "All player characters start out with +2 to HP"} + Minor Bonus Flavor Text Name {eg (CULTURAL_NAME) "All player/shop weapons start out with +5 to Hit"}

SOCIO-CULTURAL COUNTRY #2 ++ Major Bonus Flavor Text Name {eg (FANCY_NAME) "All player characters start out with +15 to Stat Points at character creation"} + Minor Bonus Flavor Text Name {eg (CULTURAL_NAME) "Disarm is a Free skill; Player characters without Disarm have a 5% chance to disarm upon counterattack."}

Followed by a list of starting areas [which I can easily fix the map for] so it begins as:

Starting Area #1 [lore/location]
Players lack the MOV penalty for Sand environments. {as the location is Sand}

Starting Area #2 [lore/location]
Players begin with +5 Evade
[...]

Spoiler: Class/Enemy/Item?/Mechanic Changes (click to show/hide)

> There will be items that can be sold/found/harvested as consumables to boost a player's stats or damage or otherwise for either a set # of turns, or for the whole battle. All such items require a full action to consume.

> Placement swapping is are allowed. If two characters have the required MOV and both agree they can switch places. This includes ending up in a place where another character is already in, and has not spent their full MOV quota. (This also will take place in the case of coordinate accidents, and will only be mentioned if there is a discrepancy of movement count).

> Supports that grant DMG also boost healing by the same amount. Supports also round up, in cases of bonuses ending in the .5 decimal area.

> CON is not used to determine amount of inventory slots. Every unit has 5 inventory slots, unless special rules are applied (eg 'Bag of Holding'; Rogue class).

> Mounted Units may perform two actions in one turn besides moving: For example, drop a carried unit, run to another and pick it up. Or, run to a unit, rescue it, and use a Vulnerary on it. It is not possible to further move after the second action. You cannot perform an attack and additional action other than movement (or other way around) during the same turn, though. Dismounting costs 1 MOV out of the dismounted MOV pool (as in, the # not affected by the mount bonus to MOV), and the canto bonus carries only as much as your dismounted MOV pool (you'll also have to worry about your mount). Unless stated otherwise, certain buildings or passageway tiles may hinder the movement of, or not be accessible to mounted units.

> You die when the 'KO' counter goes to 0. (3 turns counter) Death is NOT necessarily or technically permanent, but this is tied to in-game happenings and lore; your character will be...preserved, and there are two ways to proceed: players may want to initiate a procedure to return the dead to the domain of the living, or the dead player can return as a cohort (see Game Aspects), though this requires progress within the game or possession of certain items to achieve either. ***This needs editing...

> Staff-bearers auto-equip a weapon for combat duration, provided they have any weapon at all and they can use it (similar to Fire Emblem 4: Genealogy of Holy War). {Inspired by Praefectus}

> There exist tiny badges or symbols to be worn--possibly even edited onto the mug. This includes hats, brooches, or symbolic pins. These will grant a +1 to a specific stat.

Spoiler: Terrain Details (click to show/hide)

I have a tileset I made but I'm all fussy about it because ARGH my perfectionism. .-.
But based on this!
Basic Terrain: 1 MOV to enter -- Referred to as Open terrain.
Light Forest/Shrubland: +1 DEF/RES, +10 EVA
Forest: +1 DEF/RES, +15 EVA; 2 MOV to enter
Deep Forest: +2 DEF/RES, +20 EVA; 3 MOV to enter, 4 MOV for Supply Line/Horseback
Hills: +2 DEF/RES, +10 EVA; 2 MOV to enter, 2 MOV for Supply Line/Horseback
Forested Hills: +2 DEF/RES, +20 EVA; 3 MOV to enter, Supply Line/Horseback units cannot enter
Cliffs/Mountains: +2 DEF/RES, +20 EVA OR +4 DEF/RES, +30 EVA for Mountain Walk; 5 MOV to enter, only units with flying or Mountain Walk may enter.

Pillars: +1 DEF/RES, +15 EVA; 2 MOV to enter, 4 MOV for Supply Line/Horseback
Thrones: +2 DEF/RES, +20 EVA; 3 MOV to enter, Supply Line/Horseback units cannot enter

Shoreline/Shallow Water: -10 EVA; -1 DEF
Rivers: -2 DEF/RES, -20 EVA OR +1 DEF/RES, +15 EVA for Water Walk; 5 MOV to enter, Supply Line/Horseback cannot enter, 2 MOV for units with Levitation or Water Walk
Fords: -1 DEF/RES, -15 EVA for Non-Water Walk; 2 MOV to enter, 4 MOV for Supply Line/Horseback, 1 MOV for units with Levitation or Water Walk

Caverns: Treated as basic terrain -- Underground variety [Will include Fog of War]
Rocky Caverns:  +1 DEF/RES, +15 EVA -- Features stalagmites.

Walls: Impassible
Cracked Walls: Impassible; Destructible; 10 DEF, 10 RES, 50 HP
Wooden Doors: Impassible; Destructible; 5 DEF, 0 RES, 30 HP; x2 for Double Doors
Metal Doors: Impassible; Destructible; 10 DEF, 5 RES, 50 HP; x2 for Double Doors
Reinforced Doors: x2 HP from either Metal/Wood.
Magic Doors: Impassible; Destructible; 10 DEF, 10 RES, 70 HP; x2 for Double Doors
**Special tiles will exist in game and be introduced in game.

Protection Ward: Indoor tile; 1 MOV cost. Living units will receive a 5 HP buffer as they pass through or land upon this tile. This is refreshed every specific unit phase, and does not contribute twice (ie Mounted units passing twice over)

Spoiler: Game Aspects? (click to show/hide)

> {Additional Feature} Cohorts!
   -- Inspired by...the video game Gradius!
   -- As a skeleton feature(?), this basically adds 2 tiny figurines behind/below the player icon, each adding ~+5(?) [probably scaling until 20 or scaling with general enemies?] which represents NPC allied troops, soldiers, militia, or added personnel/spirits/entities.
   -- This feature is planned in...the situation where players could be commanders of NPC troops, rather than having singular NPC troops running around. They're more like HP buffers and...[/anxiety] it seemed like a good idea. :/
   -- Due to it being a skeleton feature, that's all I could think about in the months that passed while studiously staring at the handbook -.-
   -- Allied NPCs generally wield the same weapon-type as the one they follow, and will always be the first target of damage unless otherwise mentioned.
   -- I'll probably be silly and go with a mob idea, which just is actually one guy, but immune to the weapons triangle from the players.
   -- ...Maybe this is better used for NPCs.
   -- Planned idea that if this is accepted; the summoner class can add these to players/allied NPCs, as they do not take up an extra tile.

> Warding Items
   -- Mini-staffs, useable by anyone, with a linear range of 1:{1/4? SKL}. These consume a full action. Adds a minor amount of HP equal to the character's AID stat. This does not count the bonus stat received by mounted characters. Each give a tiny boost to each statistic (ie +1 SKL for the next turn), with a QL parallel to the Ailment staff category {page 147}.

> Minimaps!
   -- This pertains to scenarios where there is no battle; scenes like Inns, Camps, etc. Players appear just as if they're in a FE cutscene-type, along with several NPCs around the place. Along with providing a backdrop for RP'ing, interaction with NPCs may provide either a boon or bane to the players involved. (This also probably would help my storytelling because I'm very shy in providing a story, and instead would like others to help contribute?)

> I'm currently working on an idea that gives a benefit to a Battle Formation due to studies within tactics and planning, but given how the FEF works...I'm unsure if it's a practical idea. This would probably tie in with the idea of cohorts (ie increasing a defensive stat by # amount) but...

I lack the art for some examples...(mugs, especially).
This is a drafted sheet of things to newly be added, rather than homebrew changes. (ie Planning to change Counter to 'your current weapon range', but it's probably not new (as in I remember reading it somewhere), so it's not mentioned here.)
Maybe I'm being too ambitious(?)?
._.;
I'm very anxious. Hello anxiety while even pasting this down and giving it another look around ._.
It's also very messy.

I'm adding buffing items because in the case where I accidentally overscale enemies, or intentionally scale enemies as per story/natural reasons, survival can still be attained (as is flexibility and variability of "what do I do"). Along with running away.

Please hit me with your best constructive criticism.

[GiglameshDespair]

OK, so I've had a read through. I've broken my response up into the same sections as you did yours.

List of plans

First question: why modify the hit/Ql of weaponry? For the most part, 1.3 weaponry seems pretty decent.

The stat caps are the highest you can have in that stat. As a trainee, you cannot have a def higher than 10, for example, not matter what you rolled during level up.

Will your new bird mount have different stats and abilities? If so, what niche will it fill compared to a pegasus? If not, why do it? Do you have the sprites necessary to do it?

A map can be as large or as small as you like. As big as this map in fef2 or much smaller. There's no rules limiting it, but you need to consider the time it takes to complete the map, and the amount of enemies within.

+/-5 isn't huge, but it's still noticeable. 5 Ql is quite a big deal.

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Campaign

You need to work out how long you want it to be. If it's reaching lvl20 promoted classes it's probably wuite a long campaign - you'll want a long, overarching plot for that.

Remember that all maps should be winnable with the correct strategy. If things are too easy, you can introduce enemy reinforcements; if things are too hard, players get mulched. FEF battles tend to be very all-or-nothing - this was something I'm trying to avoid in DSE, as death is, in a sense, less consequence.

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Countries of origin

Sounds good, as long as it isn't a huge difference, otherwise min-maxing will probably go wild. Glowcat had starting races have an effect; so did swordstar (i think?). Maybe look at those. MInd that if you have an origin boosting only certain character specific skills, players will feel mandated to take them, or they'll gain nothing compared to those getting stat boosts.

Gaining a cost skill as a free skill may be very powerful - effectively it's granting them 30% more stat growth.

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Class/Enemy/Item?/Mechanic Changes

Useable items? Yeah, all fine. There's a bunch in the handbook.

Placement swapping... I guess? I'd imagine it can't be done if someone has already attacked or used an item and doesn't have canto.

Supports boosting healing...I guess, yeah.

Con is five slots, yeah, no issues.

Rescuing is generally an action, and I wouldn't recommend changing that. I certainly wouldn't recommend allowing rescued people to be healed. It messes with people being at risk - especially with the action changes. If someone on the front lines can be rescued, healed, and dropped back in the same place in a single turn the strategic layer falls apart.

You need to expand on the cohort idea; do all the cohorts attack along with the player, or no? What if the cohort has range and the player doesn't? Can cohorts detach from the player and be their own unit? If players die, why can they be cohorts? For the sake of other players, ressurecting another would probably become the main goal, or people would get salty.
Let the dead be dead, I say.

I don't like the idea of staff-bearers automatically equipping a weapon; it reduces the risk for them substantially in a battle.

Little items that increase stats already exist in the handbook, so no complaints here. I like the idea of editing them onto the mug.

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Terrain

It's terrain.
You might have made doors and walls etc a little bit beefy - but I suppose that's what some classes are for.
You given two different bonuses for mountains - one for mountain walk, one for not, but only mountain walk can enter according to that. +4/+4 and +30 eva also seems a bit much.

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Game aspects

As above, you need to expand on the cohort idea before a prper judgement can be rendered.

Warding items... effectively giving everyone a heal staff  with range can de-value healers quite a bit.

Minimaps: I guess? I don't see why not, if it helps people visualise things.


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Well, that's my initial thoughts, but hey, it's a free system.

[Tiruin]

On the terrain bit, I think I talked with Xanmy [but may not have directly mentioned it?] that I'd be borrowing some of his stuffs. I should've nudged him about this I guess?

Game aspects

As above, you need to expand on the cohort idea before a prper judgement can be rendered.

Warding items... effectively giving everyone a heal staff  with range can de-value healers quite a bit.

I was more thinking [RNG: 1 is best] due to how everyone can use them, not considering the possible cost and such.

Expanding on the cohort idea is...a bit difficult. I haven't quite covered the specifics on their application rather than 'This idea may seem good and...{*abstract thoughts*}'. My first idea was 'these give the player more HP', and that was it. Then the other ideas came along as if they can help the player's damage and such, or rebalance//cancel the weapons triangle.

I was also poking a bit with the weapons, until I checked and counter-checked many subcategories as well as others' FEFs. 1.3 seems pretty great. [just the names won't fit?]

List of plans

¹Will your new bird mount have different stats and abilities? If so, what niche will it fill compared to a pegasus? If not, why do it? Do you have the sprites necessary to do it?

²A map can be as large or as small as you like. As big as this map in fef2 or much smaller. There's no rules limiting it, but you need to consider the time it takes to complete the map, and the amount of enemies within.
[...]
{3}You need to work out how long you want it to be. If it's reaching lvl20 promoted classes it's probably wuite a long campaign - you'll want a long, overarching plot for that.

{4}Remember that all maps should be winnable with the correct strategy. If things are too easy, you can introduce enemy reinforcements; if things are too hard, players get mulched. FEF battles tend to be very all-or-nothing - this was something I'm trying to avoid in DSE, as death is, in a sense, less consequence.

{1} The pegasus rider's niche to me is more of an anti-mage//magic-resistant flying cavalry: A great counter to mages and their out-of-physical ranged weaponry. Those bird-creatures are more the common mount of the world I'm planning in [or I could just go vanilla FEF .-.], with their variance and breeding giving very different results--so there are those with magic-resistance (basically replace 'winged horse' for 'flyable...ostrich-sized-mount', and others serving many sorts. The idea came to be after watching Nausicaa for the...3rd time after years, as I pondered upon how those nice bird-like creatures are able to do many different types of labor and work, and it came to me that the idea of [that-bird-like-thing] can be used just like the concept of our modern horse: different breeds for different specialized purposes, but they're the same animal
...I'm unsure if I should provide sprites for them, but I could do that!
 
{2} Is there a general rule to the # of enemies? What about powerful enemies with limit to only their weapon range//access of secondary objectives?

{3} This ._. is going to be my weakpoint. It's generally going to be very long.

{4} I've taken that in mind pretty well (though it may not be really obvious when applied because I've found a big lapse between [me understanding things] and [me applying it :I]). All-or-nothing-but-with-flexibility-to-achieving-effects. I've been wondering if I could add tiny bits of flavor when describing scenery (visually and narrative-ly)--so that the tiny bits I describe could be used for later on as unorthodox actions.

[GiglameshDespair]

1) That didn't really answer - will there be a pegasus equivalent in classes? Will ordinary horse be replaced too, then?

2) Number of enemies will depend on how tough those enemies are, how much XP you want the players to gain, and whether all of them must be fought.
Effectively: 'enough, but not too many'.

3) Then you better get planning.

4) Define "unorthodox actions".

[IronyOwl]

Apologies for the wordiness.

Spoiler: Classes (click to show/hide)

Problems due to newbieship:
> May be putting too much detail due to lacking experience//focused idealism.
> Page 20; Handbook 1.3
   -- *I'm...honestly unsure about what the stat limit means for first/second class//trainees ._.
   ++ What I do understand is that the stat limits are for...class progression and limitation. What I do NOT understand is why is there a cap on the second class.
> Page 20; 30; 54
   -- I have no idea how to create custom classes, or change a class in-handbook (because there are no pegasus riders in the world I'm working with), OR diversify a class from a changed custom class! D:

Flavor is nice, and sometimes the small things can make a nice difference. Just be careful not to get too bogged down, either in designing or running it. Remember that every thing you or the players have to keep track of is an added cost, so you want to make sure the benefits are worth it.

I assume the stat caps, much like progression rate caps/floors, are there to prevent players from getting some stats way higher than each other or their foes. If so, it'd still be a concern even when players are at second class. I'm not fond of it and I'm not sure if it's necessary, but I've never seen what happens when somebody gets a stat to ridiculous levels.

Classes are basically just a stat distribution/set of bonuses, Proficiency spread, and one or more special abilities. I'm not very experienced at FEF either, so I couldn't help you with the fine nuances of making good classes, but:

-Stats are probably not very important. MOV is pretty important, CON/AID has some major impacts in rescue mechanics and viable weaponry, which can obviously make a difference. But most of the other stats are relatively minor in comparison to repeatedly leveling up, so I wouldn't sweat them too badly. +/-2 MAG isn't the kind of thing most players pick a class over.

-I'm a noob so I have no idea how proficiencies should work, which is a shame because they're pretty important. Proficiencies determine which weapons you can use, which means to a very great extent they determine what you'll be doing each turn. You'll definitely want to get someone more experienced for this one.

-Special abilities can be super important or kind of irrelevant, but after Proficiencies they're the main thing that helps define a class. In my limited experience, class specials are kind of all over the place. The really meaningful ones tend to change how a class functions, like the Summoner's ability to summon or the Thief's ability to steal; the rest usually just provide a thematic, usually situational bonus, like a Bandit's hill bonuses or the Paladin's defensive stuff. Second Class specials are usually very powerful either way, First Class specials usually aren't all that strong even if they are very meaningful.

So long story short, copy the stats from another class and mess with them if you feel like it because it doesn't matter much anyway, and get an expert to advise you on Proficiency. If you want the class to behave in an entirely different way than normal, give them one or more abilities that let them do that. If you want them to be a normal class otherwise, give them a flavorful boost(s) of some kind. In either case, the ability should be handy but not fantastic for First Classes and pretty powerful for Second Classes.

Spoiler: Amount (click to show/hide)

> I'm wondering if I can make a third class. Something that is gotten from training or mastery within the world. From feats or secrets. It'll basically just be a second class, but an added PS or name and a few + to stats.
> Money! I don't know how to price custom items! D:
> The Pegasus Rider is removed and changed into a bird-type mount who I lack a name for. (Which is really inspired by the film: Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind. Credit to GUNINANRUNIN for poking me about the existence of Chocobos, and me missing half my life of not playing the Final Fantasy genre :v)
> I am unsure how large a map may be. Generally.
> I am uncertain whether a +/-5 is a significant amount when pertaining to Hit/Evade, or QL, as I plan to modify items and such due to these.

Nothing stopping you, I suppose. Given how long it usually takes to promote to second class, though, I have to wonder if it's worth worrying about unless you're planning on boosting the XP rate.

I have no idea either! However, since by default you get to decide how much money they get and what's in the shop, you have it relatively easy; all you have to do is figure out what decisions you want your players to make. One axe or 5 Vulneraries? 2 Vulneraries? 10 Vulneraries? One (C) Axe or 2 (D) Axes? 1.5 (D) Axes? 3.2 (D) Axes? You can even alter the prices between maps if you feel like you made a mistake.

WARK! What's it do, though?

No idea either, but bear in mind most characters have around 5 MOV. You probably don't want players spending more than a turn or two moving between enemy clusters under most circumstances, but you probably also don't want a never-ending stream of enemies or it straining credulity that the next batch hasn't noticed them yet. So, however many enemy clusters you want, separated by 5-10ish spaces or a sturdy wall, in whatever area is big enough to accommodate that. As for how many enemy clusters you want, no idea on that either.

I'm not familiar enough to say how big a deal +/-5 Hit/Evade is by weapon standards, but I can attest that it's usually not that big a deal statwise. SKL gives +2 Hit, +0.5 Crit per point; SPD gives +2% Eva, +1 AS per point; LCK gives +0.5% Hit, +1% Eva, -1% Enemy Crit per point. So +5% Hit/Eva is let's say a portion of +2.5 stat points, so maybe a really disappointing level's worth of combat effectiveness.

QL is a bit harder to figure out because it takes place over such a long period of time. You're usually not thinking "I'm spending 1/25th of my weapon on this attack," or at least I'm not. It's one of those things I'm not sure is worth the bother except for the special stuff.

Spoiler: Campaign (click to show/hide)

==+=+==
Plans:
> Use Handbook 1.3.
> Tons of renaming ._.
Maybe I should just go with a vanilla FEF given all these renamings...as they're {mostly} aesthetic ;_;
> "Magic" is replaced with "Aetherics" coming from the idea of the "Aether" {Physics}
> "Magic" is still a word, referring to Divine Energy.
> Many weapons being renamed to other terms (ie Hatchet > Throwing Axes) and given tiny changes to their stats

Hatchet      | Thrw (E) | 1-2 | 5 | 4 | 85 | 5 | 35
Throwing Axe | Thrw (E) | 1-2 | 5 | 4 | 90 | 5 | 30

> "Dark" Category of Magic is renamed into Quintessence...Many names renamed because Dark isn't evil/bad sounding :v...
~~~
[...]etc along those lines

> Long-ish Campaign .-.
   -- Which leads me to be thinking about a third-class (as seen above) because of how long it may be. :v I don't really know the exact scope.
   -- Also referring to the possibility of branching arcs. Like, due to my newbieness, I may generate a whole NPC team to kill y'all by accident and hello TPK. Usually this won't result in a TPK and it becomes a whole new path.
   -- Starts with Trainee ranks; waitlist players joining post-first class get trainee level bonuses just like as if they were already in game, but somewhere else.

Seems alright, though I'd be ready for a lot of players just calling them by their original names anyway.

I'd avoid planning on it being really long right from the start. Excessively ambitious works tend to fall apart in that way; smaller, self-contained works tend to have a much easier time branching out and building up than larger works do supporting themselves the whole way through.

Branching arcs sounds interesting/good, but I wouldn't tie them exclusively to you accidentally murdering everyone unless you intend to routinely give them a run for their money. Otherwise it's likely to never really come up.

Sounds good.

Spoiler: Regions (click to show/hide)

> Player interaction with the game world. As characters have backstories in the character sheet, this is expounded into a biography; Players are given a choice in the OOC on which major nation to begin with. This designates their starting location of origin--all have backgrounds of training with weaponry. {Planned: 2 Choices}
   -- After the choice is done, they can pick from any countries, provinces, or city-states mentioned, even if it comes from the other major country-area [however it should be noted, they are foreigners in such a way]. All areas of mention have different social and cultural backgrounds, which in game mechanics mean a tiny change to their character's stats. Both major nations play a role in the planned story to come, even if any of their people will possibly never see each other!
   --- Bonuses probably mean a major/minor choice. The Major Nation's bonuses only apply to the players. The Major/Minor choice can cover anything from a stat bonus (with a total of +3 spread out), or a minor modification to specific class skills (ie Daunt has +15 to its effect).
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INDUSTRIAL COUNTRY #1 ++ Major Bonus Flavor Text Name {eg (INDUSTRIAL_NAME) "All player characters start out with +2 to HP"} + Minor Bonus Flavor Text Name {eg (CULTURAL_NAME) "All player/shop weapons start out with +5 to Hit"}

SOCIO-CULTURAL COUNTRY #2 ++ Major Bonus Flavor Text Name {eg (FANCY_NAME) "All player characters start out with +15 to Stat Points at character creation"} + Minor Bonus Flavor Text Name {eg (CULTURAL_NAME) "Disarm is a Free skill; Player characters without Disarm have a 5% chance to disarm upon counterattack."}

Followed by a list of starting areas [which I can easily fix the map for] so it begins as:

Starting Area #1 [lore/location]
Players lack the MOV penalty for Sand environments. {as the location is Sand}

Starting Area #2 [lore/location]
Players begin with +5 Evade
[...]

Neat, but:

I'd avoid making the bonuses too situational, or else the players will forget about them by the time they become relevant. Sandwalking is probably one of those things, unless it's a really memorable connection that fits the character well.

5% Disarm chance is a terrible idea, because it's an extra roll every single time the character is attacked, for statistically very little impact on the game. For tiny benefits like that, either tie them to an existing roll (ie "if the enemy's attack roll before modifiers is 5 or lower, you are treated as having the Disarm skill against that attack") or find a simpler way to give them a minor benefit.

+2 HP and +15 starting stats, by contrast, are a little on the boring side but very, very easy to keep track of, since they're just piled onto the sheet at chargen and then treated identically to stats from any other source.

Spoiler: Battle (click to show/hide)

Class/Enemy/Item?/Mechanic Changes
> There will be items that can be sold/found/harvested as consumables to boost a player's stats or damage or otherwise for either a set # of turns, or for the whole battle. All such items require a full action to consume.

> Placement swapping is are allowed. If two characters have the required MOV and both agree they can switch places. This includes ending up in a place where another character is already in, and has not spent their full MOV quota. (This also will take place in the case of coordinate accidents, and will only be mentioned if there is a discrepancy of movement count).

> Supports that grant DMG also boost healing by the same amount. Supports also round up, in cases of bonuses ending in the .5 decimal area.

> CON is not used to determine amount of inventory slots. Every unit has 5 inventory slots, unless special rules are applied (eg 'Bag of Holding'; Rogue class).

> Mounted Units may perform two actions in one turn besides moving: For example, drop a carried unit, run to another and pick it up. Or, run to a unit, rescue it, and use a Vulnerary on it. It is not possible to further move after the second action. You cannot perform an attack and additional action other than movement (or other way around) during the same turn, though. Dismounting costs 1 MOV out of the dismounted MOV pool (as in, the # not affected by the mount bonus to MOV), and the canto bonus carries only as much as your dismounted MOV pool (you'll also have to worry about your mount). Unless stated otherwise, certain buildings or passageway tiles may hinder the movement of, or not be accessible to mounted units.

> You die when the 'KO' counter goes to 0. (3 turns counter) Death is NOT necessarily or technically permanent, but this is tied to in-game happenings and lore; your character will be...preserved, and there are two ways to proceed: players may want to initiate a procedure to return the dead to the domain of the living, or the dead player can return as a cohort (see Game Aspects), though this requires progress within the game or possession of certain items to achieve either. ***This needs editing...

> Staff-bearers auto-equip a weapon for combat duration, provided they have any weapon at all and they can use it (similar to Fire Emblem 4: Genealogy of Holy War). {Inspired by Praefectus}

> There exist tiny badges or symbols to be worn--possibly even edited onto the mug. This includes hats, brooches, or symbolic pins. These will grant a +1 to a specific stat.

Consumables sound neat, though remember Potion Syndrome. Players will never use rare consumables unless they absolutely have to, at which point they will forget they even have the damned thing or figure they might really have to even more later on.

Placement swapping sounds slightly more convenient for cramped spaces, but otherwise probably won't be a huge difference.

Huh, guess that makes sense. Never occurred to me before that friendship can improve your ability to kill but not heal.

Yeah, standardized inventory sounds fine.

Horsies make even better rescuers and potion slaves, then? Not familiar enough to comment on the effects of that.

Interesting. I like the concept of reviving people via hard work, and to be honest death is so rare in FEFs anyway that I'm curious if it'll even matter. I'm a little concerned it'll remove the last of the desperate terror from the game, though if you're going for a softer ride anyway I suppose that's a good thing.

Booooo. Having to defend with the weapon you've got is one of my favorite FE concepts, and letting staff-wielders dodge that strikes me as needlessly soft. Then again, not familiar with it like Praef probably is.

Yaaaaaay useless trinkets to collect! Really though, that sounds like the kind of neat little detail that probably won't affect much but might end up being fairly memorable, especially if the badges are hard/meaningful to come by.

Spoiler: Terrain (click to show/hide)

Terrain Details
I have a tileset I made but I'm all fussy about it because ARGH my perfectionism. .-.
But based on this!
Basic Terrain: 1 MOV to enter -- Referred to as Open terrain.
Light Forest/Shrubland: +1 DEF/RES, +10 EVA
Forest: +1 DEF/RES, +15 EVA; 2 MOV to enter
Deep Forest: +2 DEF/RES, +20 EVA; 3 MOV to enter, 4 MOV for Supply Line/Horseback
Hills: +2 DEF/RES, +10 EVA; 2 MOV to enter, 2 MOV for Supply Line/Horseback
Forested Hills: +2 DEF/RES, +20 EVA; 3 MOV to enter, Supply Line/Horseback units cannot enter
Cliffs/Mountains: +2 DEF/RES, +20 EVA OR +4 DEF/RES, +30 EVA for Mountain Walk; 5 MOV to enter, only units with flying or Mountain Walk may enter.

Pillars: +1 DEF/RES, +15 EVA; 2 MOV to enter, 4 MOV for Supply Line/Horseback
Thrones: +2 DEF/RES, +20 EVA; 3 MOV to enter, Supply Line/Horseback units cannot enter

Shoreline/Shallow Water: -10 EVA; -1 DEF
Rivers: -2 DEF/RES, -20 EVA OR +1 DEF/RES, +15 EVA for Water Walk; 5 MOV to enter, Supply Line/Horseback cannot enter, 2 MOV for units with Levitation or Water Walk
Fords: -1 DEF/RES, -15 EVA for Non-Water Walk; 2 MOV to enter, 4 MOV for Supply Line/Horseback, 1 MOV for units with Levitation or Water Walk

Caverns: Treated as basic terrain -- Underground variety [Will include Fog of War]
Rocky Caverns:  +1 DEF/RES, +15 EVA -- Features stalagmites.

Walls: Impassible
Cracked Walls: Impassible; Destructible; 10 DEF, 10 RES, 50 HP
Wooden Doors: Impassible; Destructible; 5 DEF, 0 RES, 30 HP; x2 for Double Doors
Metal Doors: Impassible; Destructible; 10 DEF, 5 RES, 50 HP; x2 for Double Doors
Reinforced Doors: x2 HP from either Metal/Wood.
Magic Doors: Impassible; Destructible; 10 DEF, 10 RES, 70 HP; x2 for Double Doors
**Special tiles will exist in game and be introduced in game.

Protection Ward: Indoor tile; 1 MOV cost. Living units will receive a 5 HP buffer as they pass through or land upon this tile. This is refreshed every specific unit phase, and does not contribute twice (ie Mounted units passing twice over)

Seems fairly standard.

Spoiler: Cohorts (click to show/hide)

Game Aspects?
> {Additional Feature} Cohorts!
   -- Inspired by...the video game Gradius!
   -- As a skeleton feature(?), this basically adds 2 tiny figurines behind/below the player icon, each adding ~+5(?) [probably scaling until 20 or scaling with general enemies?] which represents NPC allied troops, soldiers, militia, or added personnel/spirits/entities.
   -- This feature is planned in...the situation where players could be commanders of NPC troops, rather than having singular NPC troops running around. They're more like HP buffers and...[/anxiety] it seemed like a good idea. :/
   -- Due to it being a skeleton feature, that's all I could think about in the months that passed while studiously staring at the handbook -.-
   -- Allied NPCs generally wield the same weapon-type as the one they follow, and will always be the first target of damage unless otherwise mentioned.
   -- I'll probably be silly and go with a mob idea, which just is actually one guy, but immune to the weapons triangle from the players.
   -- ...Maybe this is better used for NPCs.
   -- Planned idea that if this is accepted; the summoner class can add these to players/allied NPCs, as they do not take up an extra tile.

I like the concept of "wearing minions," but you should probably formalize what it's for and why it's in the game before you include it. Is it for cute magical squirrels to sit on a particular character's shoulder and help direct them in slaying the undead? Is it for larger battles than FEF normally does, where each individual character is leading a platoon of presumably lesser soldiers? Is it for both or something else?

Of particular note: In a game where each character takes up one tile, exceptions to that rule are going to seem a little odd. This likely won't matter much for protective spirits or clingy orphans, will make a certain amount of sense for attack hounds and loyal squires, and is going to seem pretty bizarre for dozens of peasant conscripts.

If you're going for the army idea, a HP buffer makes a certain amount of sense. For anything else, and honestly probably for larger battle stuff also, I'd probably make them more specialized and persistent than "you have +5 HP." Even if the point is to make the character tougher, I'd probably phrase it as a bonus to the player's HP rather than the NPC taking damage first, because then the player can still fight and take damage and even be downed without losing the NPC first. Otherwise it turns into a weird situation where the NPC dies/gets run off immediately, or else the players have to keep healing the player constantly to keep the squishy NPC up.

Spoiler: Neat Tricks (click to show/hide)

> Warding Items
   -- Mini-staffs, useable by anyone, with a linear range of 1:{1/4? SKL}. These consume a full action. Adds a minor amount of HP equal to the character's AID stat. This does not count the bonus stat received by mounted characters. Each give a tiny boost to each statistic (ie +1 SKL for the next turn), with a QL parallel to the Ailment staff category {page 147}.

> Minimaps!
   -- This pertains to scenarios where there is no battle; scenes like Inns, Camps, etc. Players appear just as if they're in a FE cutscene-type, along with several NPCs around the place. Along with providing a backdrop for RP'ing, interaction with NPCs may provide either a boon or bane to the players involved. (This also probably would help my storytelling because I'm very shy in providing a story, and instead would like others to help contribute?)

> I'm currently working on an idea that gives a benefit to a Battle Formation due to studies within tactics and planning, but given how the FEF works...I'm unsure if it's a practical idea. This would probably tie in with the idea of cohorts (ie increasing a defensive stat by # amount) but...

Interesting, but why? Weaker ranged vulneraries with a minor stat boost in them?

Heh, that sounds neat. Visual representations tend to help a lot, even if it's just a bunch of sprites scattered around a tavern.

Hm, yeah. One problem with formation bonuses, other than being yet another thing to keep track of, is that most formations that'd make sense already have built-in advantages to them, such as a row of melee characters in front of a row of ranged characters. I don't see any particular point to throwing another benefit on top of what you normally get out of that, or in giving odd bonuses to other formations that don't really do anything on their own.

Spoiler: Headpats (click to show/hide)

I lack the art for some examples...(mugs, especially).
This is a drafted sheet of things to newly be added, rather than homebrew changes. (ie Planning to change Counter to 'your current weapon range', but it's probably not new (as in I remember reading it somewhere), so it's not mentioned here.)
Maybe I'm being too ambitious(?)?
._.;
I'm very anxious. Hello anxiety while even pasting this down and giving it another look around ._.
It's also very messy.

I'm adding buffing items because in the case where I accidentally overscale enemies, or intentionally scale enemies as per story/natural reasons, survival can still be attained (as is flexibility and variability of "what do I do"). Along with running away.

Please hit me with your best constructive criticism.

You'll be fine. Seems pretty good so far, and absolute worst case you can just drop anything that doesn't work and have a regular FEF game.

[Twinwolf]

...I'm just going to note that +15 starting stats seems incredibly overpowered compared to +2 HP.

[Swordstar]

Spoiler: Thoughts (click to show/hide)

Unique classes are doable even if a bit tricky. Just make sure that you have the correct amount of stats for 'em and don't be afraid to ask for help
Major stat changes for race/nationality are a bad idea. See my race changes: +2 stats, -2 stats. It gives variety without causing major imbalance
Giving mounts two actions is a *bad idea* Ask Hasp for why this is the case if you care to
Be careful with the not actually dying thing. Maybe a better way to handle it is to go the way BMM went with giving people injuries, three injuries and then you're dead dead
No issue with staff autoequip cause that's a thing in some of the FE games as well as in at least one or two of the FEFs
+1 to specific stat items should either be consumable or take up inventory space
Is there a reason you're swapping terrain around so much? Also giving two different things based on a skill is bad but Gig mentioned that already (usually hills/deep forests aren't passable to mounted units I believe)
Rivers aren't usually passable, would not recommend changing that tbh
Wouldn't suggest making doors too beefy, especially the x2 for double doors. Knocking down doors should not take forever
Cohorts sounds weird and really hard to balance, if you really want something like this maybe look into the Reinforce skill that's in 1.3
Warding items sound like a complication that doesn't need to be added
Minimaps seem fine
Battle formation... some skills already help that like the Sent's spear wall so eh?

[Furtuka]

Hey, here's my rough draft for the OP of Beginners FEF. If anyone has some suggestions for changes to player selection or the rules modifications, or thinks something should be added, critique would be really appreciated. Thanks in advanced!

Beginners FEF

     Welcome to Beginners FEF, a game meant as an introduction for players new to the FEF series of forum games. In comparison to a normal FEF, Beginner’s FEF is built to be much shorter than the usual campaign, taking place over the course of a mere five chapters.

     FEF, standing for Fire Emblem on Forums, is as the name implies, a forum game built off the mechanics and themes of Nintendo’s Fire Emblem tactical RPG series. As such, it features several hallmarks of the franchise, including the concepts of character development and interpersonal bonds having effects in battle, the class system, and of course permadeath (Though a less harsh version due to the nature of the game).
   
     It is currently planned for there to be 8 player characters in the party in total. To help guide the newer players, a system similar to Haspen’s old NEF series shall be used in Beginners FEF. Along with the 6 newcomers in the main player list, there shall be two slots reserved for veteran FEF players who will help guide and advise the newcomers as they progress through the game. However, it is asked that the veteran players please abstain from planning out the entire parties moves for them, less an emergency situation arise to necessitate it.


Resources:
The FEF Hub Thread
Players Handbook 1.3

Spoiler: Rule alterations. Check here before creating your character. (click to show/hide)

Gameplay Changes
Death: When a party member’s HP reaches zero, the character will become unable to act and a counter timer will appear. At that point, their allies will have three turns to heal them before they expire. Being healed will restore the character back to the battlefield and reset the timer.
Inventory: Instead of having a character’s inventory capacity determined by their CON stat, each character instead has 5 inventory slots to carry what they will in.
Effective Damage: is x3 damage.
EXP: EXP is shared by the party in a pool.
Gold: Gold is shared by the party in a pool.
Crits: Critical Rolls are separate from the Hit Roll.
Looting Enemies: Items that can be stolen by the steal command are marked as [STEAL]. Items dropped upon enemy death into the killer’s inventory are marked as [DROP]
Poison: Poison deals 1-5 DMG and can reduce HP to 0.
Sleep: Sleeping units always wake up when hit.

Banned Character Skills:

Disarm
Provoke
Reinforce
Stillness

Modified Character Skills

Miracle: if the character takes lethal damage and this skill activates the character is left at 1 HP. Can't activate at 1 HP.
Blossom: Gives a third preferred stat. Levels are granted to have a minimum of three +1 stats
Awareness: Changed from (Cost) to (Free)

Class Changes
First Tier Classes
Archers: Sidearm removed.
Bandit: Kotm is removed.
Fencer: Indoor Combat removed. Replaced with
   Pillar Dodging: Receives no movement penalty from moving onto pillars.
Mage: Effect of Nature Spririts changed to “Add your Strength stat to your Constitution.”
Pegasus Rider: Magic Sink changed to +3 DMG/RES vs people with Levitation
Scavenger: Power of the Underdog removed.
Shaman:  Ancient Resolve removed. Replaced with
   Ancient Gamble:  During combat they initiate, a character with this skill can choose to roll a die. If they roll (Strength x 3) or under, they gain a bonus to their damage after the enemy's Resistance equal to the character's Constitution.
Soldier:  Spear Wall removed. Replaced with
   Anti-Calvalry: Gains a +5 Total Damage and +1 Defence bonus against mounted units.
Thief: Overdeveloped Sense of Self Preservation changed to:
   Grants Canto after picking a lock or successful steal.
Troubadour: Minor Arcana effects halved.
Wyvern Rider: Loses weakness to wind.

Second Tier Classes
Assassin: Assassinate roll target equal to crit change, but caps at 40%.
Battle Mage: Vaulting over enemy units part of Jump removed. Imbue Arrow uses stats of weaker weapon and targets lower of DEF or RES.
Berserker: Berserker Barrage removed.
Bishop: Santuary removed.
Druid: Call Magic removed. Replaced with:
   Memory Magic
Duke Knight: Hot Start removed.
General: Half Luck bonus removed from Great Shield.
Great Knight: Momentum removed.
Holy Guard: Aura of Vitality removed.
Lore Master: Cannot have the skill Center. Must swap skills if a character that has it promotes to it. Call Magic replaced with:
   Memory Magic
Mountain Warrior: Critical Eye removed. Mountain Fighting changed to no mov penalty when moving to Hills and reduced mov penalty by 2 when moving to Mountains. Giant Swing ratio rebalanced to 5 hit per 1 DMG.
Nomad Healer: Vulnerary has a cost of 100 Gold, and Elixir has a cost of 1500 Gold.
Nomad Ranger: Untouchable removed.
Paladin: Holy Shield removed.
Sage: Call Magic replaced with:
   Memory Magic
Sentinel: Retaliation removed.
Swashbuckler: Grog Soaked Blade removed.
Swordmaster: Faster Than The Eye removed.
Valkyrie: Anti Magic removed.
Wyvern Hunter: Half Luck and +2 damage removed from Pierce.
Wyvern Knight: Defense bonus of Dragon Heart reduced to +3.

As it is currently the most popularly used version of the rules, Beginner’s FEF shall be primarily using an adjusted version of the Fire Emblem: The Further Journeys Handbook version 1.3 which can be downloaded from the link above.
Basic Terrain and Weather Guide (Stolen from FOE who stole it from swordstar who stole it from BMM42)

Campaign Fluff and Lore

Spoiler: A Map of the Local Area and the Surrounding Countries (click to show/hide)

Link to World Lore pastebin
Link to Local Lore pastebin


Character Creation
Character Sheet Template
Example Sheet

Characters are to be created as described within the player’s handbook, with a 330% progression total and 4 extra stat points to be distributed upon creation. Again, please check the rule changes listed further up above in this post before creating your character.
Leave the Affinity section of the character sheet blank, as you will be given a choice from a randomly chosen pair once your character has been accepted into the game.

Please note that in this game characters will be starting from First Tier Classes, as opposed to Trainee Classes. Also note that the cast will be starting as a group of mercenaries hired to escort someone across the country, so keep that in mind while writing your bio.


Mugs

When playing FEF, its common practice to have a set of mugs or “mugshots” to represent your character. While not truly necessary to play the game, the mug sets can aid in expressiveness and are considered to a large part of the fun of FEF. These mugs typically take the form of edited and spliced together versions of Fire Emblem character portraits made using image editing software. More specifically from the Gameboy Advanced entries of the Fire Emblem series.

 For example.


Links to obtain the base sprites are listed below.
Fire Emblem 6 Mugshots
Fire Emblem 7 Mugshots
Fire Emblem 8 Mugshots. (Note, uses a different color pallet than the previous two)

If you consider yourself artistically unskilled or are unfamiliar with working with sprites and pixel arts, don’t be afraid. There are many people in the FEF community who are very happy to offer advice or help in making mugs for other players. If you need help, just post a request in this OOC thread or in the FEF Hub Thread.
   
As a last note, please don’t use somebody else’s spritework in your mug without gaining their permission. Tis rude and will get people very angry at you if you do.



Character List

Character sheets shall be accepted based on level of experience and quality of the submitted sheet, along with the need to create a balanced party. Outside of the veteran slots, players with zero or very little FEF experience will be given priority over those who haven’t.
The term Veteran as referred to here isn't very stictly defined, but a nice rule of thumb would be someone who has played through and completed at least two or three FEF chapters in the same campaign depending on participation level. Someone who once entered an FEF that died out after a chapter or two is not considered a veteran for the purposes of this game, so please don’t feel discouraged.

NPC Party Members
1. Andrew Andreas
Veteran Characters
1.
2.
Newcomer Characters
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

Character Submission Cutoff Date: TBD

[Twinwolf]

I would ask why, in a 5 chapter game, there are rule changes for promoted classes.

[Furtuka]

Just in case. In Haspen's NEFs there was some predictions that the rate of growth might lead to a small amount of players promoting right before the final stage/start encountering them during it.

[GiglameshDespair]

What are the players actually going to be doing?
Are they monster hunters? Mercs?

[Furtuka]

Mercenaries. I had a little note about it in the character creation sections. I'll move it up to the top to be more noticeable in the final version.

[Haspen]

Do we have enough interested forumites/newbies to warrant a beginner's emblem?

[Furtuka]

We had some folks trying to join the filled up games a week ago that prompted me to speed up on my development of this.