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Current one, unchanged.

+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.

Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.

I don't know but I want to see the results.

[Swordstar]

Personally I think that Saints should get Transfer Might plus subcategory stuff and would only vote for subcategory if it was like that. Otherwise I'd probably just vote for Overheal.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Personally I think that Saints should get Transfer Might plus subcategory stuff and would only vote for subcategory if it was like that. Otherwise I'd probably just vote for Overheal.

The previous poll came out with Keep Transfer Might but give them something in addition after all.

[SeriousConcentrate]

I voted specialization because I was of the belief that the below was what it meant. :|

Healing: Overheal/flow, as above.
Buffing: Buff two targets as one action, at the cost of 3 quality from the staff.
Ailments: If the initial attempt was a failure, and the targeted enemy has another enemy adjacent to them, the Saint may make an attempt against that enemy at no cost, and treats the range as 1 greater than the initial attempt, even if the target is closer.

[CrimsonEon]

There's a lot of ideas and counter-ideas going around in the IRC, mostly between me and BMM, here's some of them.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Heal:
   -Overflow [CE]: When healing an ally, any extra health that would be healed over maximum can be transferred to another adjacent ally.
   -Sacrifice [BMM]:The Saint sacrifices health to heal an ally to full health and recover status. Saint loses health = Ally's health recovered.
Aliment:
   -Splashover [BMM]: If the first attempt fails, can cast again at an enemy adjacent to the target at +1 Range difficulty
   -Doublecast [Xan]: Cast two aliment staves at the cost of half range and hit
Buff:
   -Transfer Stat (I'm suggesting this to take the place of Transfer Might instead of having it alongside) [CE]: A Saint can transfer up to 5 of a stat to a single ally (alternative idea: to any number of supports), this bonus resets when the ally reaches 0HP and stats are returned to the Saint.
   -Doublebuff [BMM]: Cast a buff twice at the cost of 3 QL

[SeriousConcentrate]

Overflow, Splashover, Doublebuff are the better ones. :|

[CrimsonEon]

We're going to need more polls at this rate .

But I agree on Overflow and Splashover, both fit well. To me though the extra QL cost of Doublebuff doesn't act as strong enough of a deterrent but that's just me. And I haven't been a fan of Transfer Might from the start and would prefer Transfer Stat as a Buff Spec instead of alongside, but ultimately if everyone else thinks Transfer Might must stay, then I'll roll with it.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Overflow, Splashover, Doublebuff are the better ones. :|

I am inclined to agree.

[Solymr]

Ok this is how the Transfer Might stuff will go:
If subcat wins we'll vote each of the subcat's bonus. If none of them results in Transfer Might/Stat then they will keep it apart from subcat bonus.

[SeriousConcentrate]

Er. The previous vote winner was 'give them something in addition to' Transfer Might. I voted for keeping TM the way it is myself, but deciding to do it the way you just outlined completely negates the previous vote - it instead turns it into a staff specialization, which means it's no longer additional or something all Saints have. It's something only Saints who took 'blank' staff specialization have.

[Solymr]

Let me rephrase that:

If none of the subcategory bonuses turn out to be Transfer Might/Stat, then Transfer Might will be kept as special apart from the staff spec bonuses.

So if you want all saints to keep Transfer Might, you know what you have to do (not voting for Transfer Might as a spec bonus :V)

[SeriousConcentrate]

...That's still the same problem. Transfer Might/Stats shouldn't have anything to do with whatever wins this vote (and that looks to be staff specializations), which again, won a vote to be something added to the Saint's skills, not replace.

[Solymr]

Well, this is how it's gonna be anyways, keep in mind we don't want to give them too much stuff.

And I'm starting to think we should leave this vote for when we have it a little more cleared out.

[Solymr]

Ok spec won. Contestants for Heal spec: Sacrifice and Overflow.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Notes for Third Tier Promotes.

This isn't something that's ready to be voted on, and doesn't really warrant discussion until we have the base rules settled, but I'm posting it in the thread for those not in the IRC.

Edit: Preliminary Names, Skills, Stats, and weapon Proficiencies for all Third Tier classes!

[Solymr]

Any ideas for Buff specialization? I'll be changing the poll tomorrow.