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Current one, unchanged.

+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.

Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.

I don't know but I want to see the results.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Didn't we already do a Fencer vote, and the majority wanted to keep pillar dodging? I seem to remember that.

[Solymr]

No that was the Fighter. If I had done the Fencer I would have noted it in the OP.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Wouldn't be the first time I remembered something that didn't happen...

Alright, so proposed Fencer specials were Challenge (force an enemy to fight you and get bonuses against them as long as you stay up and don't attempt to distance yourself), and something else I'm sure, but I forget what.

Had another idea too though.

Duelist: Passive Effect
When a unit with this skill enters a battle where both combatants wield the same sub-category, this unit gains weapon triangle advantage.

Yes, no?

[Solymr]

Kinda restricted :/ how many enemies get thrusting weapons?
Maybe when using the same weapon type. You know. Fencing is sword v sword.

[Blade Master Model 42]

It's not like Fencers can only use thrusting weapons. Valor has been dragging around a crushing sword for half of FEF despite specializing in slashing weapons. And most GMs will start them out with Iron Swords anyhow.

And it would apply to light or dark magic as well depending on what promotion the fencer grabs. This way, the fencer doesn't automatically trump, what, four classes? Since that's how many are sword locked at first class, I think.

[Solymr]

Mmmkay. I still like challenge better even if just for the possibility of upgrading it when promoting to Shadow Sword
I'll do new poll after I get back.

[Shoruke]

how many enemies get thrusting weapons?
Maybe when using the same weapon type. You know. Fencing is sword v sword.

I like this idea. Fencing swords were invented for the explicit purpose of trumping other sword-users in a swordfight, after all.

On the other hand, this would mean that Fencers have advantage against 2/3rds of the weapon triangle at all times. Should we make it only apply when using their best weapon category, or maybe only when using thrusting swords?

[Blade Master Model 42]

If we decide on that (boo!) we might as well make it the chosen subcategory, otherwise it might as well be Swords (D) and Thrusting (C). No one would want to take anything else.

[Xanmyral]

Fun note: fencing is a catch all term and doesn't always mean the rapiers or similar weapons, as German longsword fencing was quite the thing back in the day. Longswords being two handed swords, not the incorrect one handed variants you see in most RPG's today, as that's actually an arming sword.

People fenced with pretty much everything though, shield fencing was an odd thing as well. Granted, very large shields with giant spikes on the bottom of them, but yeah.

[Blade Master Model 42]

shield fencing sounds hysterical.

[Solymr]

Gregor vs Alex. Shield fencing category.

And what bonus would Challenge give? Triangle advantage?

[Xanmyral]

@BMM:

And quite deadly. People loved to fight and kill another in varied ways, to be sure.

A product of the times, and better than them simply killing due to whatever slight they perceived, which they did for a while until the church threw holy trappings onto knighthood. ...Well, to be honest it didn't really stop them that much.

Anyway, take the above as a -1 to making the fencing skill only used when using the thrusting subcategory. That's not accurate, and thus I must oppose it. :v

[Solymr]

Holy balls.

Also yeah, class specials shouldn't be restricted to a subtype.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Xan, what do you think of Fencers trumping whatever subcategories they're using at the time?

[Solymr]

ALRIGHT
Poll is now changed.
btw do you want pillar dodging to stay? :V