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Duke Knight's Momentum is up for revision? Which version of the skill would you prefer?

Current one, unchanged.
+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.
Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.
I don't know but I want to see the results.

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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #255 on: April 03, 2014, 12:24:02 pm »

Anyways so this is what Laguz apparently stick to: 3 types of Laguz with 3 subtypes each:
Physical Laguz (beast tribe): sword-like (cat), lance-like (wolf), axe-like (tiger)
Magical Laguz (dragon tribe): anima, light and dark
Support Laguz (bird tribe): flying bards and something else (maybe ranged, healer and performer? physical is already covered by beast)
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #256 on: April 03, 2014, 12:26:10 pm »

I'd prefer keeping the birds at the same style as in the games
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #257 on: April 03, 2014, 12:28:17 pm »

So that's flying sword, flying axe and flying bard?
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #258 on: April 03, 2014, 12:36:07 pm »

I'll ask Taricus once I can get to my computer. He's played FE9 and 10. And look up how the Laguz special skills work cause I vaguely remmeber something weird about those
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #259 on: April 03, 2014, 12:36:34 pm »

Sort of. The analogy on it's own works well enough, although Hawks strike me as a bit more of a "lance" type though in regards to relative strength.

The subcategory idea could very easily be scrapped though. It's mostly there to note that even among creatures of the same class there are some slight differences. It's mostly there for Birds, where there are only effectively two "fighting" types, Hawks and Ravens. It may be worth noting though, that Ravens could adopt more of "flying thief" personality wise.

In the game, they were regarded as the token "trickster" race you can't really trust, while Hawks could potentially take the full bore of the Birds on Offense category. Having them as a cross between rogues and other flying creatures could be interesting.
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #260 on: April 03, 2014, 12:38:09 pm »

Flying thiefs fits perfectly with ravens and similar trollbirds.
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #261 on: April 03, 2014, 12:39:05 pm »

Like the Kea?
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #262 on: April 03, 2014, 12:41:34 pm »

Like the giant kea.
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #263 on: April 03, 2014, 03:26:46 pm »

A note. I am in a bit of an inspired mood, so I am going to start looking into how one might integrate the Bird Tribe into the game, starting with the Hawks using Janaff and Ulki a basis for my work. I'm not going to even bother with balancing Tibarn. Some things just can't be quantified, and Tibarn is one of them. Scratch that. I'll need to look at his progressions just in case and compare it to others.

When that is done though, I'll take a look at Vika and see if I can get a Raven class going. Naesalla and the Hawks will provide a basis for Progressions, while Vika will provide some form of base stats.
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #264 on: April 03, 2014, 03:32:41 pm »

A note. I am in a bit of an inspired mood, so I am going to start looking into how one might integrate the Bird Tribe into the game, starting with the Hawks using Janaff http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Janaff and Ulki http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Ulki as a basis for my work. I'm not going to even bother with balancing Tibarn. Some things just can't be quantified, and Tibarn is one of them.

When that is done though, I'll take a look at Vika, http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Vika and see if I can get a Raven class going.

Use the [url] tag D:
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #265 on: April 03, 2014, 03:43:42 pm »

I tried, but failed. I shall try again though. It's supposed to work like using the [url=Somethingsomething}, right?
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #266 on: April 03, 2014, 03:45:00 pm »

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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #267 on: April 03, 2014, 03:46:38 pm »

Ah! So that is how. It was the exact opposite of what I was trying to do, mirroring the spoiler texts. Changing now.

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« Reply #268 on: April 03, 2014, 06:39:09 pm »

...actually wait do manaketes use MAG or STR I've never been able to tell?
They use STR, which makes it odd that Nowi can reclass into a mage. Her other option is to be a wyvern rider, which technically makes her a dragon riding a dragon. Nowi is weird  ;)

As for the poll, I voted for Manaketes only, but I kinda want Laguz too (I'm just completely unfamiliar with them). The idea being that GMs should have the option available for their games.
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Re: Fire Emblem on Forums Balance and Ideas Thread
« Reply #269 on: April 03, 2014, 06:51:28 pm »

We really should put Laguz on the backburner. They're worth having, but not every campaign would work with them, and there are things that need the attention more. They were apparently originally going into an expansion in the first place, so we should treat it as such.
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