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Duke Knight's Momentum is up for revision? Which version of the skill would you prefer?

Current one, unchanged.
+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.
Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.
I don't know but I want to see the results.

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« Reply #4095 on: June 05, 2018, 07:31:32 am »

Just a note: LMYS already gives a pretty strong buff to Hero himself, and giving them Charisma to buff a significant portion of their allies puts them, in my opinion, well into the realm of being overpowered. And while Rough and Tumble for Warrior is not currently on the table, it will likely, as it is now, be based heavily on what is available to Heroes through LMYS, but they currently don't have a Charisma analogue. If Hero keeps Charisma, Warrior will need something to be competitive.

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« Reply #4096 on: June 05, 2018, 07:49:06 am »

Keep in mind if you vote no on this Dread Fighter is likely going to lose Daunt, even though that skill makes sense for them to have. Also, I don't see a problem with just giving R&T a slight buff to make it better than LMYS to make the classes competitive.
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« Reply #4097 on: June 05, 2018, 07:51:10 am »

I disagree, I think the benefits that LMYS and Rough and Tumble get are already very strong.

Also Dread Fighter isn't getting any changes, at least until the next version, and even if they did Daunt isn't the only option for skill removal.

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« Reply #4098 on: June 05, 2018, 08:32:36 am »

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« Reply #4099 on: June 06, 2018, 01:26:20 pm »

Heroes won't get Charisma, leaving the toteming for someone else :v

Now it's Holy Guard's turn, with the new classes there's an overrepresentation of Anima, so switching Holy Guards to Light instead is an idea.
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« Reply #4100 on: June 06, 2018, 01:28:17 pm »

Subnote on Holy Guard getting Light: Doing so would give us a mounted Light class. Just saying.

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« Reply #4101 on: June 06, 2018, 01:29:57 pm »

Sounds like an endorsement to me.
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« Reply #4102 on: June 06, 2018, 04:49:38 pm »

I'm mostly voting for it because I keep thinking they have Light anyway :P
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« Reply #4103 on: June 06, 2018, 05:23:33 pm »

I'm mostly voting for it because I keep thinking they have Light anyway :P

They're called Holy Guards! It just makes sense!

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« Reply #4104 on: June 06, 2018, 05:23:56 pm »

They have staves :(
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« Reply #4105 on: June 06, 2018, 10:17:18 pm »

I'm mostly voting for it because I keep thinking they have Light anyway :P

They're called Holy Guards! It just makes sense!
Oh, and here I thought their RES/DEF preferred stats just weren't protecting them.
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« Reply #4106 on: June 09, 2018, 03:17:08 pm »

I will say on the subject of the new poll:

Discord chat was largely a fan of Flare but were somewhat unhappy with the fact that it's just the RES version of Pierce. However, we couldn't really come up with much of anything else, so if you've got a suggestion, please put it in here. ^_^
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« Reply #4107 on: June 09, 2018, 03:22:43 pm »

So there's two big reasons to go with Flare over the current Mage Knight skill:

1. Spear and Magic Helmet is kind of bad for multiple reasons. Firstly, it only works in conjunction with specific equipment, which is bad for obvious reasons. But moreover, it doesn't even do it well, since the Mage Knight still has to deal with the high Weight of Magic Weapons without any weapon skill to reduce it. They can put STR into CON to rectify that issue, but forcing classes to take off-stats to use their class skills has been bad forever.

2. Flare is pretty good! It gives Anima Trainees an end path that is solidly focused on offense, where all other promotions are focused on utility or defense. And we already know it works because it's pretty derivative, which I would say is the only failing of the skill.

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« Reply #4108 on: June 09, 2018, 03:26:24 pm »

Being derivative isn't inherently a bad thing, though. Plus it gives Anima users a method to fight other high-RES units that isn't "hide behind the rest of your team". It also puts them a little closer to Dark magic in this respect, which already has Luna, Hel, and Dulam for screwing over other mages.
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« Reply #4109 on: June 09, 2018, 03:45:50 pm »

Why don't we just improve S&MH to rectify that second issue? Say, give C ranks in all physical weapons but limited to the magical variants. Combined with a MK's 9 base CON, that'd give them an effective CON of 11. Not quite enough to use magic weapons (except the Flame Shuriken) without penalty, but several weapons could be used with only a 1-point loss in AS. This is easily rectifiable with minimal STR investment, or even a stat booster or two.

I guess I'm getting massively outvoted here, but I always thought having a class focused on magic weapons was neat, considering how most campaigns are lucky to get even one because most characters don't bother. Way more interesting than Magic Pierce.
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