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Current one, unchanged.

+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.

Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.

I don't know but I want to see the results.

[Chevaleresse]

BAB here

[Solymr]

Since the opinions stalled a bit I'm making a poll to see the popular opinion. First is Rapid Strike.

[Elephant Parade]

Petition to rename Rapid Strike to Hasty Swing because that actually sounds like something a brigand would use

[Solymr]

Dammit yay

So the first option won (The extra attack deals half DMG. Pirate gets a -20 Hit penalty to all attacks.), let's move on to mage's Arcane Barrier.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Poll got restarted to add an abstain option, pointing this out for anyone who already voted.

[Solymr]

And the Alpha option wins by 1 late vote ;V

Now for the next thing. Troubadours won't be having Physical Training anymore, which means no bonus progression and D ranks for both staves and whatever weapon they pick. To fill in we thought of a new skill:

Healing Flow: When healing an ally with a staff, the unit with this skill may choose to apply this alternate effect. The target recovers 1/3 of the HP based on this unit's normal healing, and recovers the same amount at the beginning of their next two phases.  If a target of this skill is reduced to 0 HP, any remaining healing is lost.

Which means they would have a regen effect for 2 turns, allowing for prehealing and improving the value of higher ranked heal staves. But an idea also occurred that we could give this skill to Priests and give Troubadours Self Healing instead, or a variation of it. The reasoning behind it is that Priest selfhealing results in tankpriests that go into the frontlines to soak attacks, while Troubadours can't afford to use their weapons in case of counterattacks. Switching these would make Troubs into more of a combat medic, which the promotions seem to go for, and in my personal opinion reduce the cheese that comes from priests being able to tank so well.

And with that, poll is up v;

[randomgenericusername]

But I liked Physical Training. 

[Blade Master Model 42]

Physical training got the axe because slightly higher weapon ranks didn't seem to be doing anything appreciable for the class and the minor progression boost being of little enough note to be a non factor.

[SOLDIER First]

Would have been nice to have an option to keep Physical Training instead of having it decided for us

[Haspen]

Would have been nice to have an option to keep Physical Training instead of having it decided for us

Step 1: Grab whichever handbook is most suitable for u
Step 2: Add a spoiler titled 'Changes'
Step 3: Start a new game.

Simples! ;v

[SOLDIER First]

that’s not what i said

[Sirus]

Give the poll an option to leave troubs as is, maybe? An option that says "Healing flow sounds terrible, if you must axe Physical Training find something else"?

Hell, how about a "do you even want to change the troub's skill?"

[SOLDIER First]

The first and the last sound nice.

[Solymr]

Ok I reset poll with more options ;v

[Sirus]

I voted for option four, and I will tell you why.

The staff classes in general place way, waaaay too much focus on healing staffs. You have the Priest's Self-Healing, the Servant's Live to Serve, and now this proposed Healing Flow. Every single one of these either works best with a Heal staff (Self-Heal, which also works with ailment staffs for removing status effects) or ONLY with healing staffs (the other two). Just about every single priest, maid, and troubadour is going to specialize in healing as a result, unless there is a different character on the same party that is already doing so.

Healing is useful and all, but having three separate classes with three separate class skills all heavily focused on a single subcat is a little extreme. You look at the non-staff classes, and they have skills that are not dependent on any particular subcat. The staff users are an aberration in this regard.

If we seriously want to give the troubadour a new class skill, let's make it focused on something else. For example, did you know that Buff staffs get absolutely no class bonuses until promoted level? Ailment staffs don't get much of a boost either, only being useful for treating a priest's own status ailments. I'm sure we can come up with some better ideas than that.