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Current one, unchanged.

+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.

Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.

I don't know but I want to see the results.

[Solymr]

So about weapon rebalances:

Slim weapons having 10 Crit seemed a bit excessive to me at the beginning, I reduced it to 5.
Steel Lance and Steel Halberd: lance weighs more than halberd but has less mt.
Judgement and Druidic: since effective is based on MT it results in some inequality when dealing with certain classes/weapons. Compare using Judgement vs Archers and vs Swordsmen. I thought of making them all do the same damage when used effectively based on level, but since that ended up too complicated for anyone's tastes, I thought making it simply MAG*1.5 or 2 might be ok.

[Lenglon]

At low levels crit chances are low across the board aren't they? a flat +10% is less powerful when applied to a base 3% chance than when applied to a base 30% chance. I suspect slim weapons crit has little impact when they are used during their intended time period. where it matters is around the time of steel weapons, before killer ones. there they serve the niche role of crit weapon, and you're trading off a lot of power for it because you have to compare slim to steel.

i like slim having the full 10 crit.

[Blade Master Model 42]

I agree with Lenglon with regard to slim weapons and their base crit.

Steel Lance should probably have the weight reduced rather than buffing the steel halberd.

I don't have a problem with judgement magic as is. Druidic tomes could probably stand a MT reduction across the board but I don't think a mechanic change like you're suggesting is a good idea. Especially in the late game where your MAG multiplier would be tacking on 10-30 damage depending on whether you're doing 1.5 or 2.

[Solymr]

I just switched their weights around.

And I insist having such damage disparity is stupid.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Well there's either going to be damage disparity between targeted classes/weapons or all the tomes in the subcategory are going to essentially be the same. Welcome to gimmick based trees.

[Solymr]

It's a hard life. How would you balance the ranks of those weapons? Based on rarity of the target tree/weapon?

Also Warding wat do

[Blade Master Model 42]

The problem with that is, with exception of S rank stuff, all the targets indicated by Judgement are more or less just as common as each other, and even if they weren't a GM just has to lean on their table a bit to shift that balance anyway.

To me, warding is a lost cause. I never really liked the concept but I have no idea how it could be addressed.

[Sirus]

In my mind, the Wooden Sword needs significant nerfing. It's lighter than an Iron Sword, does more damage than most of the other E-rank swords, has obscene accuracy, and last but not least possesses the single best QL of any item in the game.

It seems a bit excessive to me. All it's missing is base crit, which isn't much of a downside at all when the vast majority of physical weapons lack base crit.

[GiglameshDespair]

All the e-rank swords, to compare:

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Name      | Type ( ) | Rng | Wt | Mt | Hit | Cr | Ql
Iron Sword    | Slsh (E) | 1 | 5 | 5 | 85 | 0 | 45 |
Devil's Sword | Slsh (E) | 1 | 14 | 16 | 65 | 0 | 20 | (31-LUC) chance for wielder to take damage instead
Slim Sword    | Thru (E) | 1 | 3 | 4 | 100 | 10 | 35 |
Iron Rapier   | Thru (E) | 1 | 6 | 5 | 80 | 0 | 40 | +2 DMG vs Armoured
Iron Blade    | Crsh (E) | 1 | 8 | 9 | 70 | 0 | 45 |
Wooden Sword  | Crsh (E) | 1 | 4 | 6 | 100 | 0 | 50
Iron Dagger   | Side (E) | 1 | 4 | 4 | 100 | 0 | 45 |
Iron Knife    | Side (E) | 1-2 | 5 | 4 | 90 | 0 | 40
...Jesus, yeah, that is without question the best e-rank sword by far.
It's objectively better than the iron dagger completely, which simply shouldn't happen.

I agree, then, that it needs a nerf.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Maybe drop the hit to 80? It is a crushing sword.

[Swordstar]

Dropping hit to 80 would be good, yeah. As for steel lance/halberd, steel lance does gain +5 hit, so that balances out WT change comparison. Also I think that you can't really compare too hard all the weapons because there are only so many permutations of stats that will still give useful weapons and also be unique and balanced. Swapping weights around would be fine though so meh.

I think effective class trees are fine.

[GiglameshDespair]

I'd maybe give it a statline like:
Wooden Sword  | Crsh (E) | 1 | 6 | 6 | 80 | 0 | 50

It's bizarre in how OP it is. None of the other crush swords have hit above 75. Ultimately I don't think there needs to be or indeed can be too hard a balance, but it does stand out.

[Haspen]

It's Wooden Sword.

Give it 1 or 2 MT max.

[Swordstar]

It's Wooden Sword.

Give it 1 or 2 MT max.

* Swordstar whacks hasp over the head with giant tree branch

Still sure 2 mt?

[SOLDIER First]

but it's a crush weapon