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Current one, unchanged.

+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.

+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.

Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.

I don't know but I want to see the results.

[GiglameshDespair]

I know, but handaxes are smaller axes to me. Ah well.

[CecilHoshino]

If the issue of Sanctuary isn't already dead and buried, why not this as an alternative?

Sanctuary
Activated Effect
By using an action, the Bishop can create a protective aura around an allied unit for up to 5 (arbitrary number) turns. While the aura is around the ally, they cannot be targeted by enemy attacks, spells, or ailments. However, if, at any time, the allied unit attacks an enemy or attempts to apply an ailment to an enemy, whether they were successful or not, the aura is dispelled and they can be targeted by enemy actions again. This skill cannot be used while an ally is already under the effect of Sanctuary, and it cannot be used on the same ally consecutively.

As for Performers, they were just as game breaking in practice in standard FE games, as well, to the point where, aside from the early game Cavaliers, the early game prepromote, and the occasional tier breaker (ie: Ruthgar from FE6), Performers were basically first pick material in any draft run of a game (it's a thing that happens). If there is enough of a need to nerf, I can think of a few that might work well together.

• The party can only have, at max, two Performers
• Performers cannot use their skills on each other; Dancers cannot target other Performers, and Performers will be unaffected by Bards even if they're in range
• This is the big red button that could alter the entire course of things, but just might be what's needed to help translate Bards and Dancers from the games to the tabletop: Allies who are under the effect of a Performance do not get a second Attack or Ailment; they must use their second turn to do something else, like Move, Trade, Rescue, Heal, or Buff. Ideally, this also solves the issue of Lore Masters, Enchanters, and Blade Dancers having little reason to use their special techniques in favour of just spamming the Performance over and over, making it a choice of allowing an ally to attack and do something else vs a super attack, rather than the dominant strategy of two attacks.

As for why Dancers are the ranged Performance while Bards are the adjacent, that came from what their special Weapons are all about. I wanted to make Dances the debuffer to be used against enemies, while Bards were the party buffers. Also known as the Final Fantasy style. To accommodate for this, Dancers had to be able to target enemies without putting themselves in TOO much danger, thus they got the range option.

Lorewise, maybe in the heat of battle, it's hard to hear the Bard unless you're close to them, while you can still see the Dancer's sick moves.

[Solymr]

Haspen already applied the first two measures and it's still too much :v
I think limit to 1 is the best option.

As for newSanctuary, reminds me of HoMM 4's Sanctuary spell. 5 turns might be a little too broken. And we'd have to test it anyways.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Really liking that third option for performers.

As for the proposed new Sanctuary... Maybe. It'll be hard to make a call before any playtesting.

[mastahcheese]

I wholeheartedly support option 3 for performers.

[SeriousConcentrate]

Since we seem to be saying yay or nay, throwing in on nay.

[Xanmyral]

I personally like the third option for performers. Would be nice to see them actually use their buffs and debuffs or weapons. I might suggest a tweak though that a unit may attack with their performed turn, but only if they haven't attacked their original turn.

As for the revised sanctuary, I'm personally not sure. I would see this primarily used on other healers (possibly the caster) or performers, since they won't break it, sorta akin to the DnD sanctuary.

It may lead to a situation where they cast it on said healer, and when it wears off they cast it on a person fighting so that it gets dispelled the same turn, so it can be cast on the healer the next turn again. Might be good to apply a clause where it restricts the affected from doing things that would break it on the turn that it's cast.

Spoiler: As a "see what sticks" idea about sanctuary, here's one: (click to show/hide)

What about the standard sanctuary except that it's stuck where it's cast, units can pass freely in and out (or possibly just allies, or just those caught in the initial cast), and those within cannot attack or use affliction staves. The bishop cannot cast this while one is still up and some other limiting factor to prevent constant recasts, or perhaps only once per map.

However, the barrier is assigned a number that is the bishops RES and MAG added together, divided by ten rounding down. That's how many attacks it will stop from entering (and possibly also how many turns it will last as a separate number (attacks against the barrier won't affect how long it will stand), or from the same number (the number of attacks shortens how long it'll stand, and how long it's been standing affects how many attacks it can take (I suggest doubling this number however if this route is taken)).

Edits because I hate phones

[Blade Master Model 42]

Giving the old sanctuary a form of endurance instead of full immunity would be interesting, yeah.

[CecilHoshino]

So, let's say the Bishop has a RES of 20 and a MAG of 15 (they freshly promoted and focused on support stats in this example). Their Sanctuary would have an Endurance of 3 ([20+15]/10, rounded down), absorbing 3 attacks or lasting 3 rounds, whichever comes first. Of course, deliberately attacking a zone of Sanctuary in an attempt to break it seems like a rather vile thing to do, so...good way to establish the depravity of certain enemies, yeah.

(this could be where 6 attacks/3 turns might come into play, in this example).

For my revised Sanctuary idea, yeah, 5 was just an arbitrary number picked at random. In practise, I think it'd be more reasonable lasting 2 or 3 rounds, depending on how test results show.

Even if we limited the Performer clause to just "no more than two," there should at least also be a stipulation of "No slow and steady performance chain," where one Performs for the other, then the other moves one space ahead but still adjacent to their ally and performs, then they in turn move on space ahead and performs, etc, etc, and suddenly you've crossed the map.

If the nuke button Option 3 was revised to "Allies can only make one Attack per Phase, whether that's their first turn, or the turn granted to them by performance" to allow for moving into position and THEN attacking (instead of limiting it to attacking and then moving into a new position), would it still be too much of a nerf, do you think?

[Haspen]

This is what Solymr asked for aka Alchemist promotion called 'Witcher':

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Promoted Class A:

Warlock: Warlocks, their female counterparts called Witches, are what Alchemist becomes when his reclusive character drives him or her to peruse ancient magics in the calm of countryside. Oft living in forests or on the outskirts of small settlement, these provide common folk with herbal medicine in return for being allowed to settle down and study the old tomes. They're still skilled in melee weapons and magical staves, and the knowledge of dark magic adds to their potential.

Preferred stats: HP, MAG

Weapon Skill: 1 Axe subcategory (B), 1 Dark subcategory (B), 1 Staff subcategory (B), Axes (C), Dark (C), Staves (C)

Special: Alchemy

Special: Cursed Weapon: Melee weapon equipped by Warlock/Witch gains 'Ailment on Hit', where the Ailment is based on type of Ailment Staff the Warlock/Witch is carrying (he/she can choose if multiple Ailment staves are present). If no Ailment staff is present in the inventory, weapon gains '-5 Hit/Eva on hit'.

Promotes From: Alchemist
Items Required: Herbal Sigil

Promotion Bonuses:
HP  +3  STR +1  MAG +3  SKL +2  CON +3  AID +3
LCK +0  DEF +0  RES +2  SPD +1  MOV +1
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[Solymr]

Approved :v
I would shift the DEF point to HP imo tho

Aboot sanctuary and performers: limited durability sanctuary looks cool to me. We should keep exploring other options. About the performnuke n3 I think it would be too much of a nerf, where one performer isn't much worth to the team.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Also, the Supply Line auto-healing seems like quite a lot when it goes five spaces out. Three spaces might be more reasonable.

[Swordstar]

Ok, can we have a quick discussion about the ability to put 0% growth in a stat? From my understanding, it was you could put 0% in either str or mag if you were never going to use them, aka a mage can put 0 in str but an archer can't put 0 in str even if they plan on using crossbows 24/7. So then my question comes in, what about mixed characters? Are they required to put some amount of growth into both str and mag? If so, I feel like mixed characters should gain some extra growth, just to help make up for that. Not until they're mixed. So like, a thief trainee wouldn't gain any extra growth until they promote into Scav. Thoughts?

[Sirus]

Also, the Supply Line auto-healing seems like quite a lot when it goes five spaces out. Three spaces might be more reasonable.

Even though we got our butts kicked in NoH anyway?

[Solymr]

Also, the Supply Line auto-healing seems like quite a lot when it goes five spaces out. Three spaces might be more reasonable.

Even though we got our butts kicked in NoH anyway?

Don't go there in my thread bro.

On 0% prog: I allow it for better specialization. If it ends up as crippling overspecialization is not my problem.