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Duke Knight's Momentum is up for revision? Which version of the skill would you prefer?

Current one, unchanged.
+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.
Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.
I don't know but I want to see the results.

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CecilHoshino

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« Reply #1950 on: August 29, 2014, 11:26:12 pm »

Also a note about Judgement. I think the problem isn't the range of effectiveness, since they all have their effects restricted to a class tree and doing it on a skill basis might result in unbalancing, but the fact that their base MT is pretty horrible and if you change it to x2 instead of x3 it becomes even worse.
IMO a flat bonus like +5 would work better.

Also Druidic magic is pretty lame as is.

So, in my defense, when I made the change from x3 to x2 Effective Might, I thought I was bringing it in line with FE standards. But, as it turns out, that was only the standard in FE9, FE5, and the English version of FE7. (FE4 was kooky and made it autocrits, and crits in THAT game were absolutely bonkers). Also, in a snap decision, I preemptively nerfed them, though it's possible I might have gone a bit too much in the other direction.

And I agree, my original answer for what Druidic Magic was all about in v1.2 and 1.22 was pretty lame; hopefully, the change/clarification in 1.3 makes them a little more appealing.
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« Reply #1951 on: August 29, 2014, 11:43:06 pm »

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« Reply #1952 on: August 30, 2014, 03:59:55 am »

Edit nvm
« Last Edit: August 30, 2014, 04:04:33 am by Varee »
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« Reply #1953 on: August 30, 2014, 07:45:36 am »

Well now the problem is that Druidic magic is *too* good :v
Due to their high might and the fact that WTD doesnt really counter the fact that a lot of enemies in a map have the same weapon, they become OP against their target and not bad against the rest.

Also people dont like sidearms for Archers v:
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« Reply #1954 on: August 30, 2014, 08:18:10 am »

Also people dont like sidearms for Archers v:
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« Reply #1955 on: August 30, 2014, 08:21:01 am »

Also people dont like sidearms for Archers v:
* Tiruin shoots Solymr with her bowgun.
We can now attack in melee! :D

Well, you can counterattack in melee.

...Which kind of subverts the point of having bows be ranged only, I think. But then again, the Archer doesn't have much else going on for them in terms of class skills.

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« Reply #1956 on: August 30, 2014, 08:29:04 am »

Also people dont like sidearms for Archers v:
* Tiruin shoots Solymr with her bowgun.
We can now attack in melee! :D

Well, you can counterattack in melee.

...Which kind of subverts the point of having bows be ranged only, I think. But then again, the Archer doesn't have much else going on for them in terms of class skills.
Meh, it can at least get archers WTA against Axe-users.
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« Reply #1957 on: August 30, 2014, 08:31:47 am »

But only on counter attacks.

And it's still weird that they change their equipment during the EP.

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« Reply #1958 on: August 30, 2014, 09:05:45 am »

They already have a buttload of DEF, and a special that eliminates the most probable counter to their range advantage is bad for everyone else. With sidearms they become the physical equivalent of magic units with 1-2 range with a lot of defense.

Also a suggestion to change instances of DEF/RES to DR if the reduction is independent of the type of damage (i.e. supports, warding, etc).
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« Reply #1959 on: August 30, 2014, 10:24:49 am »

Also a suggestion to change instances of DEF/RES to DR if the reduction is independent of the type of damage (i.e. supports, warding, etc).
I'm amazed that this isn't a thing already, especially for supports.
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« Reply #1960 on: August 30, 2014, 10:56:01 am »

Meh, it can at least get archers WTA against Axe-users.

Actually no, the rules are specific that you gain neither WTA nor WTD.

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« Reply #1961 on: August 30, 2014, 10:56:41 am »

Also a suggestion to change instances of DEF/RES to DR if the reduction is independent of the type of damage (i.e. supports, warding, etc).
I'm amazed that this isn't a thing already, especially for supports.

Yes please. We can get MAG, but no RES :(

Although I wouldn't be opposed to a DEF/RES split in supports. Might make things interesting.
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« Reply #1962 on: August 30, 2014, 11:32:42 am »

Hm, after looking Stone over, I feel it lacks a bit of "Oomph" for a Paralyze+ affliction staff.

Cecil, what do you think of halving the defensive bonus it gives and doubling the critical bonus enemies get against the unit?

Or, for something a bit left field, maybe having their CON count as defense while petrified? The Crit bonus can stay the same there, or still be doubled if you want it to be more punishing.

I suppose it comes to question of whether it turns the unit wholly stone, or if it just locks any movement by encasing them in stone though for the latter possibility.

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« Reply #1963 on: August 30, 2014, 11:44:11 am »

If "wholly stone" means that the status effect is permanent (at least until battle end), then no thank you.
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« Reply #1964 on: August 30, 2014, 11:48:48 am »

If it ain't said, it ain't implied. :v

It just means that instead of being metal wrapped in stone, they're just stone. A sort of fluff reason for why their CON is now their defense instead of stone augmenting their existing defense. The effect still goes away, the unit if downed loses the effect, etc.
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