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[Tegga21]

4 piles of gold, scroll of amnesia, arrows, stones, regular ring, leather armor, randart mace (have one of speed already though), boots of jumping a halb anda  book

[Delta Foxtrot]

Cool win Un67! No abyssal rune despite being an AK?

[Un67]

Eh, I already had three runes, so I decided not to stir the pot. Probably could have gotten it without any real difficulty, but by that point I just wanted to get it over with.

[Karlito]

So, my DsBe has cleared the Dungeon, cleared the Lair, and cleared the Orc mines. The Lair branches are Snake and Shoals, and I'm not sure which one to tackle first. I don't think I want to go messing in the Snake Pits without rPois, but I'm wary of taking my virtually EVless axe-wielding maniac into the Shoals. He does have evocable flight which will help, but I dunno. Any advice would be appreciated. Maybe I can find a rPois leather armour forgotten up on D:7 or something...

[Elephant Parade]

Hold on. I thought I was supposed to be a part of Bay12 Miners, but apparently it's full?

Edit: Oops, was viewing the 0.13 clanlist for some reason.

[thegoatgod_pan]

Hey still working to set up the Bay12 Nobles: sorry for the delay, figuring out how to manipulate and find the elusive rc_file.

[Delta Foxtrot]

All data gets applied to teams retroactively if necessary, so no loss.

Also sent a PM to help you out.

[thegoatgod_pan]

Ok edited my rc file to read as follows:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

# TEAMNAME Bay12 Nobles
# TEAMCAPTAIN thegoatgodpan
# TEAMMEMBERS AnturK Thornet
# Crawl Init file

Hope all goes well and good luck!

[Aelig]

So, my DsBe has cleared the Dungeon, cleared the Lair, and cleared the Orc mines. The Lair branches are Snake and Shoals, and I'm not sure which one to tackle first. I don't think I want to go messing in the Snake Pits without rPois, but I'm wary of taking my virtually EVless axe-wielding maniac into the Shoals. He does have evocable flight which will help, but I dunno. Any advice would be appreciated. Maybe I can find a rPois leather armour forgotten up on D:7 or something...

You are right, don't do snake without rpois, there is just no way. But if you can get it and your ds is AC oriented it's really easy. Shoals is not as bad as one may think monster wise, and if you have fly you may be ok. Read about mesmerize from mermaid and fear uniques more than anywhere else and you should be fine. (I once ran into Mennas with a Ds or Yred right in front of shoals rune vault, but that's the worst case scenario).

[monk12]

My XL7 OgWz just found an altar of Nemelex. I was thinking about going with Vehumet and doing a conjurer type char as an ogre. But I've never tried Nemelex and I'm wondering if I should try him out.

How well does Nemelex roll with caster types?

IMO, not super well. Don't get me wrong, he can pull his weight with the decks of defense giving you escape options and decks of summoning taking the attention off of you, but you'll probably find that the decks of destruction are pretty redundant with the conjurations you already have, and in my experience caster types have enough experience sinkholes to fill without adding Evocations on top of it.

That said, I'm hardly an expert, and I've never played an Ogre Wizard (well, never played one long enough to reach Temple, anyway.) I also haven't played with him now that he works a little differently in regards to what he gifts you (it used to be I would get loaded with Destruction and Summoning decks since corpses and weapons are by far the most prevalent item in the dungeon, but now I think it's just random so you should get more variety.) He's certainly a fun god, and if the flexibility sounds good then go for it.

N.B I would have posted this last night, but the forum derped on me- fortunately I have Lazarus, assuming the advice is even relevant anymore

[Delta Foxtrot]

Advice is always relevant. Though our poor intrepid OgWz got slinged to death by a conveniently poison resistant Joseph.

Right now I have a TeCj on the firing line but he's only reached D3. We'll see what wild manner of beast slays him come tomorrow.

[Aelig]

I'm not sure snake was made harder, they did remove Lamia who was the main reason snake was scarry, also poison seems nerfed when you have rpois. But Nagas are so hard to play and they sure did make the game harder as a whole.

EDIT : I checked my morgue file to see if I was exagerating before when talking about a hard Lair and Swamp on my last succesfull char, and it appears I killed 27 hydras in that game, and they were some more in Swamp 5 when I left. I find this a bit extreme.

[Dr Feelgood]

I just finished the vaults. Shattered the welcoming party in Vault:8, while Servitor 1-shot everything else.

My XL7 OgWz just found an altar of Nemelex. I was thinking about going with Vehumet and doing a conjurer type char as an ogre. But I've never tried Nemelex and I'm wondering if I should try him out.

How well does Nemelex roll with caster types?

IMO, not super well. Don't get me wrong, he can pull his weight with the decks of defense giving you escape options and decks of summoning taking the attention off of you, but you'll probably find that the decks of destruction are pretty redundant with the conjurations you already have, and in my experience caster types have enough experience sinkholes to fill without adding Evocations on top of it.

That said, I'm hardly an expert, and I've never played an Ogre Wizard (well, never played one long enough to reach Temple, anyway.) I also haven't played with him now that he works a little differently in regards to what he gifts you (it used to be I would get loaded with Destruction and Summoning decks since corpses and weapons are by far the most prevalent item in the dungeon, but now I think it's just random so you should get more variety.) He's certainly a fun god, and if the flexibility sounds good then go for it.

N.B I would have posted this last night, but the forum derped on me- fortunately I have Lazarus, assuming the advice is even relevant anymore

Nemelex is a bit redundant for casters. He's still okay, because you don't have to spend mana to use decks. And high-powered card effects are better than spells. He got nerfed recently. Deck gifts are fixed now: destruction (40%), wonders (10%), etc. Dungeons got removed.

Edit: I'd choose Sif for a summoner and Vehumet for a conjurer. I'd pick Nemelex for fighters, hybrids and stabbers. I did an OgWz run a long time ago, but it was practically a summoner.

[Xgamer4]

What do you guys do when the game steadfastly refuses to drop decent equipment? I've cleared through floor 14 of the Dungeon (and dipped into 15), I've cleared Orc, and I've cleared Lair. (Vine Stalker Assassin)

So far, the only equipment even vaguely worth note is a +5/+4 Dagger of Venom, and a +6/+5 Cutlass of Protection (equipt). As-is, I had to purchase and enchant Swamp Dragon Armor for my Poison Res before tackling the Spiders Nest, and everything else bog-standard might-as-well-have-found-it-on-D1 equipment...

I'm generally able to handle most things, but that's largely because, between my natural regen, stabbing, and Dith's aura, stuff doesn't really hit me.

[Aelig]

What do you guys do when the game steadfastly refuses to drop decent equipment? I've cleared through floor 14 of the Dungeon (and dipped into 15), I've cleared Orc, and I've cleared Lair. (Vine Stalker Assassin)

So far, the only equipment even vaguely worth note is a +5/+4 Dagger of Venom, and a +6/+5 Cutlass of Protection (equipt). As-is, I had to purchase and enchant Swamp Dragon Armor for my Poison Res before tackling the Spiders Nest, and everything else bog-standard might-as-well-have-found-it-on-D1 equipment...

I'm generally able to handle most things, but that's largely because, between my natural regen, stabbing, and Dith's aura, stuff doesn't really hit me.

You seem to be in a pretty normal situation given your advancement, nothing alarming here. Just in case, look for branded weapon (stuff like fire or elec) by ctrl+f your weapon type, same for armor. If your other Lair branch is the shoals it should be doable (maybe get flying first) and Swamp is easy if you have see invis for vapour.