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jadle1

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Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« on: March 23, 2014, 10:35:48 pm »

I just had a fortress fall to a triple goblin siege (well over 100 invaders, no joke), and I decided to reclaim. I had built a "treasure room" of sorts in the fortress. It was a square room with a 1 tile drawbridge entrance. In this room I had TONS of superior quality steel armor, superior steel battle axes, all of my adamantine wafers, and a couple full sets of adamantine armor all stored in lead bins. Before the fortress fell, I had closed the drawbridge entrance to the treasure room (totally blocking it off) and locked the door to the lever room.  When I embarked to reclaim, I sent a dwarf to look in the treasure room. The lead bins were all still exactly in place, but they were all completely empty! I immediately appointed a bookkeeper and set him to full accuracy, but none of the items showed up on the stocks page.  As far as I can tell, all the other items from the old fortress are still lying around everywhere, except all of the treasure room items I actually cared about! Is this normal? What might have happened to my stuff and is it possible to get it back? I'm pretty frustrated cuz it took forever to put all that together.
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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2014, 10:38:25 pm »

The game automatically scatter everything on reclaim or visiting the site as an adventurer. I heard theres a way to get around it though with a container or something
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jadle1

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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2014, 10:51:23 pm »

Well the vanilla workaround that I learned was to use lead bins because they are super heavy and barely move from the scatter, and to completely close off an area with a drawbridge, both of which I did. And the item scatter doesn't really explain why the items just completely disappeared. They aren't even showing up as forbidden items in the stocks screen despite full accuracy bookkeeping.
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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2014, 11:14:04 pm »

I haven't toyed around with reclaims too much (I did reclaim my first deep fort like 3 times since it had lots of addy.) Things do disappear. If you abandon use the lair command in dfhack to limit scattering.
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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2014, 11:29:56 pm »

I guess I didn't realize items disappeared during the scatter. It still seems weird that ALL of my treasure horde would be gone... pretty frustrating.
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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2014, 12:14:27 am »

I could be wrong, but I've had the same thing happen. I mean things do get destroyed.
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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2014, 02:31:40 am »

Items shouldn't be getting destroyed from disembark scatter. This can be confirmed from the stocks screen.

A "workaround" would be to use the DFHack `lair` command before disembarking the fort, which will prevent items from scattering. Because making your fort into a monster lair is the solution to all problems...
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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2014, 09:05:46 am »

It is the lair of a monster: the player.
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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2014, 11:41:24 am »

I've tried forbidding doors and walling over my vaults to limit reclaim scattering and it has worked rather well.

I imagine that you lost all your weapons and armor to the goblins after they looted everything, so don't be surprised if they march in wearing steel and adamantine.
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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2014, 08:06:02 pm »

Try using dfhack's "reveal" and then checking your stocks.  Upon reclaim, you don't see every part of the site that was revealed in the previous fortress, but things can still be scattered to those parts.
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jadle1

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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2014, 11:42:53 pm »

Yeah I thought maybe it's possible the goblins stole the loot, but I figured they shouldn't be able to because the area was totally blocked off by a drawbridge, and the lever was deep in the fortress behind locked doors.  The majority of the goblins were gone on reclaim, so I couldn't check all of them. I wonder if I could find a few in adventure mode and see if they are wearing the armor. Can gobs even wear dwarf armor?

I could see the treasure room immediately on reclaim, but I had a few dwarves go in just in case items weren't rendering or something. None of the stuff was there at all.
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2014, 09:49:56 pm »

Were your dwarves equipped with the addy when you abandoned? If so it is gone forever, they will leave the map with it and possibly return as ran gen clothed migrants.
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Re: Adamantine completely disappearing on reclaim
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2014, 12:59:34 am »

No they were not equipped with any of that armor, I had it all forbidden. The idea was to come back as an adventurer. So much for that....
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