Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Tiruin]

Jack: Day inspect, how goes?

[Jack A T]

Extend.  This is really a mess, I'm confused, I need to know more about 4maskwolf's plan idea, and the day's ending overnight for me.  And I have a paper to work on.

Jack: I find it a bit rich that you're taking that as evidence of Objective as scum after telling me that Tack is merely a bad player.  How does that quote indicate anything other than a misunderstanding of the rules regarding power purchasing?
[rest of post snipped]

Leafsnail: I shall keep my comments here short, as the post is old and much has changed (your scumpicks have changed significantly since this post).
*On Tack being a bad player: What I said was not that Tack was merely a bad player.  My statement was that your evidence against him was primarily that he was a bad player.
*On the flavour inspect of TheDarkStar: NQT hasn't exactly been subtle in his flavour, I've noticed.  Regarding the lack of indication of sap, I really didn't care: all parties involved in the dispute agreed that Sap and Protect were among the powers TheDarkStar stole.  (I think the syringe meant Sap, by the way, while there was no indication of Protect)
*On Objective's defense: It was bad play, true: a defense where Objective accepted an incredibly harmful fact as true.  My hope with that post: provoke either a retraction and new defense, or an attempt to double down on the failure.  I'm amused by the complete lack of response: an even more interesting way of handling the failure.

Jack A T: Town lean, but I've seen doubts from other people in that regard. Possibly converted, but he did point out that Tack was town.

TheDarkStar: I pointed out that Tack appeared to have had the Day 1 powers he claimed to have had (and thus was probably town during Day 1), not that he was town.

4maskwolf: Please give your full reasoning behind your plan.  I'm finding it hard to evaluate, or even follow.

Tiruin, you are being way too panicky. I've seen you get mad at town for piling on you with little evidence, but this feels different. You're freaking out about the fact that Jim and Leafsnail are voting you as if this game will be lost if they succeed in lynching you. This and the fact that both Jim and Leafsnail bring up good points leads me to believe you are the converter.

Persus13: Could you please give more details?

PPE:

Jack: Day inspect, how goes?

Results have been stated.

[Tack]

He inspected TDS, it came up as doctor.
The rest was vague.

[Tiruin]

PPE:

Jack: Day inspect, how goes?

Results have been stated.

Approval. Missed that whole page. Must read back.
Thanks.

[TheDarkStar]

There's actually a good reason for Tiruin to be panicky. Why? If we mislynch, there's a chance that we LyLo tomorrow.
Possibilities (total - scum #/town #) - state of the game
13 - 4/9 (count today)

12 - 5/7 (mislynch and convert, no nightkill) - MyLo, barring a large amount of people getting a kill.

11 - 5/6 (mislynch and convert, missed nightkill) - LyLo, barring a large amount of people buying a kill.

11 - 4/7 (mislynch and convert, scum nightkilled, or scum lynch and missed kill) - One day before MyLo or LyLo, barring the above

11 - 3/8 (non-converter scum lynch and any scum nightkill) - A good thing, but probably not what will happen.

11 - 2/9 (converter scum lynch and nightkill) - the best possible outcome, but also unlikely.

As you can see, if we mess up, we'll get to MyLo or LyLo.

Also, I'd like to point out that Jim Groovester (Why not vote you? Because you're not the converter.) is acting scummy. I'm guessing that he was the convert last night (which makes sense, considering his reputation). Interestingly, the only people who are arguing that anyone else is scum are the people accused of being scum themselves. Also, Deathsword's (I'm just making sure that I voted for him) replacement request is very fishy; as town, he wouldn't have a reason to do so.

Jim, Leafsnail, and Persus: Could you detail your case on Tiruin beyond "I don't like the role he chose!" (despite other things not actually working out, as 4maskwolf points out) and "He thinks I'm scum!"? Jim seems to be covering for LS and Deathsword Persus13. He suggests blocking in case of a mislynch, but scum can buy Unstoppable tonight, making this useless and bringing us to LyLo. Leafsnail is arguing with Tiruin because Tiruin found him scummy, and Deathsword/Persus13 was getting desperate (and he still hasn't refuted 4maskwolf's claims from what I've seen).

Everyone who is not suspected scum: What do you have to say about the events of today?

PPE:

Tiruin: I like your fully explained style better. Minimalistic is understandable, but I feel like I'm putting more effort into reading the post than understanding what it's saying and what effect it has. Also, didn't Jack A T target either me earlier today to verify my claims?

PPE #2: I don't think Jack A T is scum at all anymore (at least for today). Also, I'd guess that the syringe represented both Sap and protect, but that's irrelevant right now.

Jack A T: 4maskwolf's reasoning is based on the possible roles. Based on the claims and the people who might be lying, there are only a few possible setups. Lynching Deathsword (who seems likely to be the converter) is a way for us to decide which setup happened.

[Tiruin]

Jack: I find it a bit rich that you're taking that as evidence of Objective as scum after telling me that Tack is merely a bad player.  How does that quote indicate anything other than a misunderstanding of the rules regarding power purchasing?
[rest of post snipped]

Leafsnail: I shall keep my comments here short, as the post is old and much has changed (your scumpicks have changed significantly since this post).
*On Tack being a bad player: What I said was not that Tack was merely a bad player.  My statement was that your evidence against him was primarily that he was a bad player.
*On the flavour inspect of TheDarkStar: NQT hasn't exactly been subtle in his flavour, I've noticed.  Regarding the lack of indication of sap, I really didn't care: all parties involved in the dispute agreed that Sap and Protect were among the powers TheDarkStar stole.  (I think the syringe meant Sap, by the way, while there was no indication of Protect)
*On Objective's defense: It was bad play, true: a defense where Objective accepted an incredibly harmful fact as true.  My hope with that post: provoke either a retraction and new defense, or an attempt to double down on the failure.  I'm amused by the complete lack of response: an even more interesting way of handling the failure.

Medical note: While a syringe is really associated with such things: It is not used to take whatever fluids a person has and transfer it to the self, unless if in case this means you're transferring whatever [other person] has that [person receiver] does not have.

Though in cooking, yeah it really could mean sap, as syringes are also used as a method of transfer.

I was thinking venipuncture or blood collection. No, that doesn't work like a transfer tool in blood collection (well, it does, but the process is hazardous if the transfer is person > syringe > other person due to how...fragile our blood cells are. Also, I'm rambling)

It could be assumed the syringe = protect, however that is really debatable (with essence lying on a nonconclusive end)

Doubtful if white coat really exclaims doctor.

Results: He's not dark or edgy, but an upright man in flowing white robes.  A pillar of the community-looking fellow.  It looks like a syringe sticks out of his pocket.

Modern time? People didn't use robes (or don't), or rather they're claled something else. If robe, best assumption = holy man or any type associated with religion or those not in the medical profession--I haven't heard of any doctor, nurse or any such medical professional who wears...robes, exactly.
Also did you ask how the robes look like?

PPE

Tiruin: I like your fully explained style better. Minimalistic is understandable, but I feel like I'm putting more effort into reading the post than understanding what it's saying and what effect it has. Also, didn't Jack A T target either me earlier today to verify my claims?

PPE #2: I don't think Jack A T is scum at all anymore (at least for today). Also, I'd guess that the syringe represented both Sap and protect, but that's irrelevant right now.

See my PPE as reaction to it. I missed pages :v
Also, I dislike minimalistic because it...leaves a space for assumptions. But I realize what I need to work on, thanks to most people's words around here in communicating.

[4maskwolf]

My plan in a nutshell:
Lynch Deathsword, because mechanically he is the most likely to be the converter.  Everything pans out.  If he by some miracle isn't the converter, beat the hell out of Tiruin with night powers while keeping objective under wraps and a bus on me to prevent bullshit recycling.  If Deathsword is the converter, proceed to execute Objective and Leafsnail, who strikes me as EXTREMELY scummy.  If Leafsnail flips scum (and I'm sure he will), then we have one non-converter scum left.  Probably Groovester, he's pushing the Tiruin lynch pretty hard.

Also, Deathsword was replaced by Persus, we vote him now.

[TheDarkStar]

Also, Deathsword was replaced by Persus, we vote him now.

Oops, I forgot about that in my post. Persus13.

NQT: Votecount please

[Tiruin]

Also, Deathsword was replaced by Persus, we vote him now.

Oops, I forgot about that in my post. Persus13.

NQT: Votecount please

Deathsword was r-

...
I'll just keep quiet and really really push forward my own extend.
'Tis not good ending the day on April Fools'. No, my words were not connected to the event at all if it is assumed I am being jovial or stuff.

My plan in a nutshell:
Lynch Deathsword, because mechanically he is the most likely to be the converter.  Everything pans out.  If he by some miracle isn't the converter, beat the hell out of Tiruin with night powers while keeping objective under wraps and a bus on me to prevent bullshit recycling.  If Deathsword is the converter, proceed to execute Objective and Leafsnail, who strikes me as EXTREMELY scummy.  If Leafsnail flips scum (and I'm sure he will), then we have one non-converter scum left.  Probably Groovester, he's pushing the Tiruin lynch pretty hard.

Also, Deathsword was replaced by Persus, we vote him now.

Just shoot me. :v Either they waste a Changeling on you, or they get a townkill on me.

Meaning: Either way, you'll get evidence by NOT lynching me.

[Jim Groovester]

Also, Deathsword's (I'm just making sure that I voted for him) replacement request is very fishy; as town, he wouldn't have a reason to do so.

Or maybe he legitimately needed to replace out. Did that ever cross your mind?

You don't know why Deathsword replaced out and he's not obligated to provide an explanation. You should only ever assume that replacements are done in good faith and you should never draw any conclusions from it like you're doing here.

[TheDarkStar]

Also, Deathsword's (I'm just making sure that I voted for him) replacement request is very fishy; as town, he wouldn't have a reason to do so.

Or maybe he legitimately needed to replace out. Did that ever cross your mind?

You don't know why Deathsword replaced out and he's not obligated to provide an explanation. You should only ever assume that replacements are done in good faith and you should never draw any conclusions from it like you're doing here.

He could (and probably does) have a legitimate reason. Note that I just stated that it's there; my main reason for lynching him is 4mask's reaosning. I've seen lots of replacement requests, and the reason is usually real life things.

[Tiruin]

Also, Deathsword's (I'm just making sure that I voted for him) replacement request is very fishy; as town, he wouldn't have a reason to do so.

Or maybe he legitimately needed to replace out. Did that ever cross your mind?

You don't know why Deathsword replaced out and he's not obligated to provide an explanation. You should only ever assume that replacements are done in good faith and you should never draw any conclusions from it like you're doing here.

This is also my fault and I'm sorry ;_;

[Jack A T]

Also, Deathsword's (I'm just making sure that I voted for him) replacement request is very fishy; as town, he wouldn't have a reason to do so.

TheDarkStar: This is not appropriate.  However scummy he was, a replace request should not be taken as evidence for or against anyone.
PPE: What Jim said on that.

Tiruin: On a less game-focused note: you seem quite stressed.  Have something remotely funny.

On 4maskwolf's plan: I need to think about the plan for a bit before coming to a conclusion.

[Tiruin]

I'm more stressed now and it isn't game related and argh schedules and ok I'll get back to this in a few hours must not focus on stress and mm perhaps it is leaking out here and sorry and thanks!
^{...Seriously?! Court cases?!
Oh gods how did you KNOW?! XD}

[4maskwolf]

Tiruin: Or, for something completely different, this