Leafsnail I 'threw away' cop by claiming because at that point I had equal amount of votes as P-Luke and was getting gangbanged by questions. I figured if I got lynched I'd only be hurting my team, but if I got night killed, I'd be 'wasting' a kill- this being because as a townie my investigative skill isn't up to par, and I realize that.
Two obvious problems:
1. How the heck did you feel pressured when you weren't even on course to being lynched, and with so much time left to go? Having a few people ask you questions isn't a good reason.
2. This clearly contradicts your earlier "Alignment cops are mega-super-ultra important to the extent that the mafia would HAVE to deal with them". If alignment cops are that important then the mafia would not be "wasting" a kill, they'd be successfully eliminating a threat. Also you seem to be assuming that the mafia is too stupid to make an actual informed decision about who they're going to kill/convert, and will instead rush for the claimed cop even if it's a bad move for them.
But right now I feel that I'm being a bad townie, and you're being a good scum. You've made every perfect step since being forced to claim, and you seem sure in your belief you'll finish the day without being lynched.
I'd normally just ignore this, but instead I will ask a genuine question: do you know how to construct an argument?
Like, seriously. I just see you make loads of unsupported and controversial assertions throughout your posts without any supporting evidence or reasoning. Like this, for instance. You could replace it with "YOU SCUM I TOWN" and lose none of the argumentative power.
Jim my flavour inspect had me appear as town, and I wouldn't have had the points to buy innocent if I'd gone scumcop.
How did your flavour inspect have you "appear as town"? If flavour cop can really perfectly judge someone's alignment then why is it only at 2 points?
How is he "clearly scum"? I see a big jump from "possibly converted" to "scum for sure". Also, what was your reason for recycling him?
Firstly, no, I'm not going to let you dodge the allegation through OMGUSing.
Why did you say Tack was confirmed town earlier?
And it's because he's been acting incredibly suspiciously throughout both days. His actions make no sense for a townie (that's why he can't explain them without huge contradictions opening up), but make perfect sense for a mafia member.
Also, why aren't you trying to get scum lynched? Because Objective is the non-converting non-recycling scum, it's important to lynch either of the other two first. What's your reasoning?
You answer your own question in literally the next sentence. Because we have to lynch the converter today. I don't think the mafia team has a recycler, but if it theoretically did lynching them would also not be acceptable: the mafia would still get an extra person and end up in an overwhelmingly dominant position.
Even if I didn't think this I still wouldn't be going for Tack because he has no points and no abilities.
Unfortunately for Leafsnail, a scum recycler is in my eyes one of those priorities
Ok... why? I can reduce someone's ability to function as a player, sure. But a converter can remove someone's entire ability to function as a townie and also make it so they function as a mafia member. And what's more they can do it without anyone noticing.
Your previous position of "We should get the converter first" was correct, the fact that you've contradicted it just exposes how desperate you are to lynch the one person who can block recruitments.
@Leafsnail: I see you dropped your earlier accusations about me lying, huh.
No, not at all. It's just that the argument with you became an unreadable mess and there was no point in continuing it if no-one else will pay attention. Actually that also applies to this post so I will just make a few general responses.
- I didn't "suspect" that you lied, I presented clear evidence that you misled the town. As for why it was suspicious: you did not (and really, still have not) explained to my satisfaction why you did so. In the absence of any plausible town motivation I will pick the scum one instead.
- I don't understand why you saying I'm "backing off" should make me react in any way.
- Tack has not to my knowledge presented a single good point in this entire game - I invite you to prove me wrong. Well ok, he presented a couple only to immediately contradict them afterwards.
- There were three sappers in the game, two claimed. So yes I thought it was likely that an unclaimed scum had sapped me because I couldn't see any reason for mastahcheese to do it. I mean if scum had a sap why wouldn't they go for the easy 8 points (although according to TDS apparently the last sapper is Objective and he picked a really bizarre and terrible loadout).