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[Jim Groovester]

If it's any consolation, it wouldn't have saved you as Darkstar was the killer:

Is that who killed me?

[4maskwolf]

I'd be fine with another round, but not now.

Miller, in the revised list, still has the point count problem, but now even worse.

But now with fortune teller reduced in power it is actually good for mafia to take, as they can claim it,c confirm having it by an inspect, but it costs them to do it.

[Jim Groovester]

If it's any consolation, it wouldn't have saved you as Darkstar was the killer:

Is that who killed me?

I suppose I should ask, how did I die?

[4maskwolf]

If it's any consolation, it wouldn't have saved you as Darkstar was the killer:

Is that who killed me?

I suppose I should ask, how did I die?

If it's any consolation, it wasn't me. I actually sold my kill the next night to roleblock cheese from hiding, so that if he wasn't scum nobody would ever have to know. As it turns out, all of my hunches were right and the town rolled over the remaining scum.

[Jim Groovester]

I'm wondering if I was the victim of a redirection, randomization, or bus, or if I was deliberately targeted over actual obvscum like Leafsnail and Objective.

[TheDarkStar]

Yeah, I bought kill a few nights ago and said nothing for safety reasons. Other than TWS, I also killed Jim. He was acting really really scummy at the time (there was reason to suspect that he was converted and he was defending Leafsnail while trying to get 4mask lynched, and then Leafsnail flipped scum).

I'd definitely play another round of this.

[4maskwolf]

I'm wondering if I was the victim of a redirection, randomization, or bus, or if I was deliberately targeted over actual obvscum like Leafsnail and Objective.

Not from the scum you weren't. I read the entire chat. Which is mostly LeafSnail ranting to the rest of the team.

Also, high five to team town, we played a great game there.

[notquitethere]

Is that who killed me?

Yeah, it went like this:

Darkstar 5xp
D1 +1 xp
N1 Changeling's Objective -1xp
D2 +1 xp
Sell's protect, buys kill, kills Jim.

It was a wonderful and stealthy strategy as no one expected anyone else to not spend all their starting points, but it was very vulnerable to a sap in the first two phases.

[Tawa]

Shoot, I lose.

Ah well, another reason to not play mafia.

LATER FOREVER!

~Tawarochir Forestrider, Elven Ranger

[Jack A T]

I have to say, Jim, you and Sheeprochir were the most misread players this game.

[Jim Groovester]

Yeah, I bought kill a few nights ago and said nothing for safety reasons. Other than TWS, I also killed Jim. He was acting really really scummy at the time (there was reason to suspect that he was converted and he was defending Leafsnail while trying to get 4mask lynched, and then Leafsnail flipped scum).

Then why didn't you shoot Leafsnail instead? Or Objective? They were actual obvscum at that point.

Holy crap, were you reading the same game I was reading? I never tried to get 4maskwolf lynched.

I have to say, Jim, you and Sheeprochir were the most misread players this game.

I guess that's what I get for being convinced by the silver tongue of Leafsnail.

[Tawa]

Sheep?

What up with that?

Probably something I missed after I quit, haha.

[Jack A T]

Sheep?

What up with that?

Probably something I missed after I quit, haha.

You were replaced by TheWetSheep.

[Leafsnail]

I would suggest not letting rank newbies into the game.  The scumteam this time chose a hilariously awful loadout that made their loss almost certain (the only reason we were able to survive past day two in any form was the fact that I randomly got gifted a high cost ability), so the game was a bit of a farce.  Basically you need to make sure the scum will pick a good enough setup for there actually to be a game (also give them enough tools to make such a setup, I'm concerned that there isn't really anything they can do in the face of town breaking strategies under the new ruleset).

- Convert now only half-converts: a player can be one of three alignments: scum, mafia ally and town. Scum converting town turns them into an MA, scum converting an MA turns them into a full scum player. Scum can't be converted but town players can convert mafia allys to town.

Having your win condition change multiple times in one game still sounds really shitty.

- Scum can now buy Miller for 1xp (rather than the usual -1xp)

I think all townies should still take Miller, really.  Ability Cop would then basically clear them since there would be an obvious 2 point hole in any mafia miller setups.

Hey now Leafy, my logic won the game, stop insulting it in the scumchat.

I never did.

[TheDarkStar]

I killed you after we decided to kill Leafsnail and Objective was neutralized. You were a much more dangerous player and I was convinced that you were scum.

PPE: 4mask, my logic also won the game: I personally took out two unconfirmed scum.