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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

C) if you're going to link me to the wikipedia page where 4-dimensional torus(es?) are portrayed, I think its time we start talking about 4 dimensional donuts.

Why stop at 4?

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I cant believe i have only been on bay12 for a few days and one of my threads did ¨this¨
I officially love this website and its community

[MaximumZero]

Welcome to Bay 12. Most of us are intelligent nerds. All of us are at least slightly nuts.

[Helgoland]

Welcome to Bay 12. Most of us are intelligent nerds. All of us are at least slightly nuts.

About a quarter of us are mentally ill. We put that to good use.

[Bauglir]

Welcome to Bay 12. Most of us are intelligent nerds. All of us are at least slightly nuts.

About a quarter of us are mentally ill. We put that to good use.

That's why we're about 1 page a way from beginning to actually hash out the details of a store that sells only non-Euclidean pastries.

[Helgoland]

Welcome to Bay 12. Most of us are intelligent nerds. All of us are at least slightly nuts.

About a quarter of us are mentally ill. We put that to good use.

That's why we're about 1 page a way from beginning to actually hash out the details of a store that sells only non-Euclidean pastries.

The Klein donut, convergent cookies, non-continuous cake...

[Erils]

Although don't we already exist in 4 dimensions and therefore we already have 4 dimensional donuts?

[LeoLeonardoIII]

I think they're talking about spatial dimensions. Time as a fourth dimension would work differently. Although if that's what they meant, then yes, but you don't want to see a 4th dimensional donut after it's been digested.

[Aseaheru]

And, of course, doughnuts exist in the 5th dimension (probability).

[Erils]

Would a donut that existed in 4 spatial dimensions still have a single hole?

[LeoLeonardoIII]

And, of course, doughnuts exist in the 5th dimension (probability).

I ... are we still talking about theoretical spatial dimensions?

Why do you think probability is a metadimension and not just a human construct like honor and justice?

[smirk]

Welcome to Bay 12. Most of us are intelligent nerds. All of us are at least slightly nuts.

About a quarter of us are mentally ill. We put that to good use.

That's why we're about 1 page a way from beginning to actually hash out the details of a store that sells only non-Euclidean pastries.

The Klein donut, convergent cookies, non-continuous cake...

"The Chef Ouroboros: World's Finest in Non-Euclidean Foods since [TIME IS A NON-ORIENTABLE SURFACE]."

[scrdest]

Welcome to Bay 12. Most of us are intelligent nerds. All of us are at least slightly nuts.

About a quarter of us are mentally ill. We put that to good use.

The remaining three-quarters are considered honorary nutcases.

[Erils]

Why do you think probability is a metadimension and not just a human construct like honor and justice?

Not completely sure what you meant by this question and am too lazy to look at the previous page so I will just say what I think.

WARNING: The following is mostly opinion and ideas and as such has no cited sources.

I think that probability is a human construct meant to aid in guessing what will happen. If something is more probable, that means that there is a higher chance of it happening. However, in our universe, only one of the options will ever happen and is the option that would have happened no matter what if the circumstances were the same. If you toss a coin, you might say that there is a 50% chance of it landing on heads or tails. However, (I believe that) if the exact cicrumstance that you tossed the coin in were recreated (forces pulling on coin, angle of toss, etc) then it would always land on the same side. Probability is merely a means of guessing what the result will be.

[Powder Miner]

Opinion on probability, and not even as well phrased
Humans must always look at the future with some amount of limited knowledge and uncertainty-- with the amount of variables in existence, we can very rarely say with certainty something is going to happen. As such, what might happen is essentially the same thing as what will happen, since the variables of the world will never be very exactly duplicated. As such, we can never tell if something WOULD happen the same way or a different way with the exact same conditions, since the exact same conditions will never exist. One couldn't tell if the world was destined to run the way it is, or if it's made from chance, because the state of conditions being exactly, exactly the same as another instance is not a state that can be reasonably reached, especially since probability tends to deal with variable conditions in and of themselves.