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[Jboy2000000]

Has anyone ever tried to make a fortress like a human town? Like, instead of digging into the earth you build above ground buildings and such. I plan on trying it, and wanted to know if anyone else has, so I can know how hard/easy its going to be.

[Propman]

Having played a few tower challenges, they show that above ground buildings take a lot of time to build, even if you want to make a simple wooden box, never-mind those massive forts and castles that you see in adventure mode! The fact that the average human house is a pile of wood with a dirt floor, overcrowded with peasants with perhaps two beds if they're lucky suddenly makes sense.

Also, pro tip: When building a roof, if you're lazy but still want it to not look absolutely horrid, this plan should aid you somewhat:
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Basically, it's a small dome roof. Way more attractive then a mere flat top, and it doesn't take any more resources to build.

[Grim Portent]

Human Forts are something that's been done quite a bit on the forum. Some are just dwarfs enjoying the sunshine, others are modded humans building proper towns. Generally the first concern should be a communal dining room with a food stockpile dug beneath it, after that a wall and a dormitory to house the bulk of your little dorfs/humans/modded-space-monkey-ninjas while you build individual houses.

[smurfingtonthethird]

I built a cheese fort once (added cheese bricks made from cheese) on the surface.

I NEEDED SO MUCH CHEEEEESE

Either way, you're gonna need a lot of logs or a lot of blocks.

[Jboy2000000]

I built a cheese fort once (added cheese bricks made from cheese) on the surface.

I NEEDED SO MUCH CHEEEEESE

Either way, you're gonna need a lot of logs or a lot of blocks.

Hooooooollllllld on there! You can make cheese wall? Forget a human town Im going to make an underground fortress with walls of cheese. How do you make cheese though?

[Nuoya]

You can use dfhack embark anywhere onto a human fort, kill the humans after you've powered up a little bit, and take it over.

Alternatively you can dig under it and cave in the mother.

[smurfingtonthethird]

Hooooooollllllld on there! You can make cheese wall? Forget a human town Im going to make an underground fortress with walls of cheese. How do you make cheese though?

Cheese is made at the Farmers Workshop, from a bucket of milk. I modded in a custom workshop with a custom reaction that turned cheese into cheese blocks, for teh lelz, and made a city of cheese.

[Jboy2000000]

You can use dfhack embark anywhere onto a human fort, kill the humans after you've powered up a little bit, and take it over.

Alternatively you can dig under it and cave in the mother.

dfHack? That sounds like it would be cool to embark inside a human town/castle/whatever. Do humans make farms? Because I think Ive seen them on the map, but couldn't embark close enough to tell.

[smurfingtonthethird]

Nice title!

The humans have straight lines of bushes, which always drop berries or tubers or whatever. They don't replant though.

[Jboy2000000]

Nice title!

The humans have straight lines of bushes, which always drop berries or tubers or whatever. They don't replant though.

But can they be used as farm plots where your farmers can plant stuff?

[Sutremaine]

You can use dfhack embark anywhere onto a human fort, kill the humans after you've powered up a little bit, and take it over.

I embarked on a pair of tombs, hoping to claim them some day from the guardians inside. They vanished as soon as I sent in a horse to eat the curse. :/ Embarking and heading straight for the coffin got me a proper attack, so maybe you have to make your move before the game is reloaded?

[Nuoya]

I don't remember if they are farm plots that you can [q] over, but you could DEFINITELY grow above ground crops there. Though the farm areas typically lack any structures or even humans.

You can also embark-anywhere onto a human tomb, and after a few ticks a zombie horde and a mummy will rush out and attack you if you didn't wall them in. However, there's plenty of treasure inside if you unforbid it.

If you embark into a human town you're actually probably guaranteed to die to a peasant/soldier rush unless you came with like 6 military dwarves and 20 dogs.

Finally, you can also embark directly on a necromancer tower and try your hand at cage trapping the necromancer(s) for later use.

Attacking the human fortresses is probably my favorite one, it's a role reversal and this time you're the siegers. If you can kill all the humans you'll have a pre-made fort to use against the incoming human and goblin sieges.

[Jboy2000000]

So wait, embarking on a human town will any human instantly hostile? By the way, what is dfHack, and where can I get it?

[Urist McRas]

I built a cheese fort once (added cheese bricks made from cheese) on the surface.

I NEEDED SO MUCH CHEEEEESE

Either way, you're gonna need a lot of logs or a lot of blocks.

Hooooooollllllld on there! You can make cheese wall? Forget a human town Im going to make an underground fortress with walls of cheese. How do you make cheese though?

I vote for modding cheese to be a layer stone, renaming the dwarfs into mice and rolepaying that. Bonus points for modding cats to chase dwarfs.

[nekoexmachina]

Bonus points for modding cats to chase dwarfs.

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