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Re: Banter Thread
« Reply #2760 on: May 11, 2021, 05:56:32 pm »

Go on....
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« Reply #2761 on: May 11, 2021, 06:07:49 pm »

Go on....
Alright, so it involves murder...
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« Reply #2762 on: May 11, 2021, 06:09:16 pm »

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« Reply #2763 on: May 12, 2021, 04:37:09 am »

There are several possibilities, we thought through two. They all require a lot of manual work... OR an automatic mafia engine.  8)

Quote from: Version 1 - Soft Time Travel
Players can post and submit actions at any time for any phase (even when technically dead). Voting can only happen for that particular day.
The standard limit for actions still applies, though: you have a limit of 1 action (excluding free actions) per phase.

Whenever actions are submitted, the engine re-runs all the actions in the new history (just once).
Actions which don't work (e.g. due to dead source or dead target) are just ignored.
As soon as someone wins, the game is completed.

Quote from: Version 2 - Paradox Police
Players can submit particular actions that affect current, future or previous phases.

Whenever actions are submitted, the engine re-runs all actions in multiple iterations.
If you end up creating a paradox, it will start looping through these iterations.
If this is detected, the paradox police will wipe you from existence (e.g. murder you from before the game started) and the game will re-evaluate itself again. The murders will continue until timeline stability is achieved.

The game ends as soon as someone wins (or everyone gets murdered by the time cops).

There are probably other variants that can work, but these seem to be the most doable ones (version 1 is the easiest one to implement).
« Last Edit: May 12, 2021, 04:52:11 am by TolyK »
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« Reply #2764 on: May 12, 2021, 09:03:01 am »

I am sorry, but I like 2.
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« Reply #2765 on: May 12, 2021, 09:20:19 am »

2 sounds genuinely cool. What kind of paradoxes would you care about? I don’t think you need to worry about the grandfather paradox for example.
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« Reply #2766 on: May 12, 2021, 11:26:05 am »

I told you 2 would be popular. Everyone wants to cause paradox murders.

My idea is like so.

Example:
A on N2 kills C on N3.
B does nothing but exist for no real reason.
D on N2 protects C on N3, saving them.

C on N4 then goes back in time and kills D on N1. This causes a ripple effect where C and D dies and revives over and over as the timeline tries to resolve. So, TP show up and throw C is Time Jail for Excessive Paradoxes, removing them from spacetime.
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« Reply #2767 on: May 12, 2021, 01:53:50 pm »

Okay, that make sense. That literally is grandfather paradox, but I understand why it's necessary. When do you think the game will be up?
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« Reply #2768 on: May 12, 2021, 02:03:39 pm »

... There are two answers I can give, and none that will satisfy.
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« Reply #2769 on: May 12, 2021, 03:10:35 pm »

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« Reply #2770 on: May 12, 2021, 03:25:06 pm »

Is this tied to your bot project?
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« Reply #2771 on: May 12, 2021, 05:12:26 pm »

EDIT: No, not the bot thing, but the game engine thing. I mixed those up in my head.

Not inherently, because you could theoretically work out everything by hand... but practically, yes, because it's a PITA to work out everything by hand. Meanwhile it's a different PITA to make an engine, but you can re-use the engine. ;D
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Re: Banter Thread
« Reply #2772 on: May 19, 2021, 03:18:35 pm »

I think Toaster needs at least one more player for Roguelike Mafia. Should be a blast.
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« Reply #2773 on: May 19, 2021, 06:32:45 pm »

I think Toaster needs at least one more player for Roguelike Mafia. Should be a blast.
I can join if it doesn't start soon.
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« Reply #2774 on: May 19, 2021, 06:33:54 pm »

Unless we don't hit minimum for a while, I'd say Monday at absolute latest for a start (barring player requests to wait longer.)
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