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Author Topic: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion  (Read 26634 times)

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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #300 on: March 15, 2014, 11:17:49 am »

D'aw, thanks. :)
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: a WW3 simulator (or not)
« Reply #301 on: March 15, 2014, 12:58:46 pm »

(( Sheb: Can we get a rough timescale for this divergent timeline? ))

New Zealand:

Foreign Affairs:
Attempt to send relevant aid to Australia. If aid is rejected, nod politely and back away.
Send military aid (detailed in spoiler) to South Korea peninsula.

Spoiler: Military (click to show/hide)

Internal Affairs:
Observe a minute's silence in Parliament in light of the Second Korean War. Denounce North Korean aggression, and pursue an emergency debate on the possibility of raising taxes for the short term to cater for an ermergency defence budget.

Intrigue:
Get the NZ ambassador to the US to keep us updated on the situation on the ground in the US, with particular attention to the governmental situation as it develops.
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #302 on: March 15, 2014, 01:42:23 pm »

Shoot thought I did and I wasn't blaming you sheb just hmm thought I did whatever could you get me a status report then because I dont know whats going on.
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #303 on: March 15, 2014, 02:42:38 pm »

The Great Leader of True Korea may have made a fatal error in his calculations driven on by his True Korean arrogance.

(If I don't suicide troll (i.e. nuke everything possible) but die is it possible to become a new country?)
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #304 on: March 15, 2014, 08:08:01 pm »

The Great Leader of True Korea may have made a fatal error in his calculations driven on by his True Korean arrogance.

(If I don't suicide troll (i.e. nuke everything possible) but die is it possible to become a new country?)
Hey, don't give up! Pull back now, plead some superfluous provocation. If you can shell an island and get away with it, you can pull back here. Declare a cease-fire so that the UN has time to create a commission to investigate the fiendish South Koreans.
*Ahem*
Speaking as a strictly neutral party of course.

On one hand, I'd like to see the rolls, but on the other, it breaks me immersion. Ehh, yeah, put them up.

The Islamic Republic of Iran
Foreign affairs
>Pressure Assad to move to win decisively or settle, soon, as Iran's patience is wearing thin. And Iran gives him the guns.
>Similarly, lean on Hezbollah to behave near the Israeli border, at least for a while. Tell them we might be on the verge of something interesting.
>Continue not giving a fuck about the UN. Give no fucks, take no prisoners, that's how we roll.
Domestic affairs
>Must modernize! Iran's economy is fairly centralized, so it should be easy to manipulate the slowly growing free market. Focus investments into industrial tech and factories. Recede some government control and incentivize new owners to grow and expand, keeping an eye open to avoid corruption or exploitation.
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« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 07:19:00 pm by misko27 »
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: a WW3 simulator (or not)
« Reply #305 on: March 16, 2014, 04:32:28 am »

(( Sheb: Can we get a rough timescale for this divergent timeline? ))

I've been putting up a date at the start of each turn. So far, we're doing 1 turn/1 month.

Shoot thought I did and I wasn't blaming you sheb just hmm thought I did whatever could you get me a status report then because I dont know whats going on.

Sure. Here you are.


Actually I've been a bit rash with Yourmaster. It's just that having the world's biggest power nuke countries at random is a game-breaker. North Korea acting crazy is more normal, because it's Best Korea. So don't give up yet, but sure, you can get another country if your government get overthrown.
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: a WW3 simulator (or not)
« Reply #306 on: March 16, 2014, 05:04:05 am »

I've been putting up a date at the start of each turn. So far, we're doing 1 turn/1 month.
Oops, missed that.. D:
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #307 on: March 16, 2014, 06:08:15 am »

This is just a thought, but a war would probably last quite a long time, even if one side was far more powerful, due to the terrain of the Koreas and based on the last war (though DPRK had China's support that time). Just a question but how would you regulate the time for a long war?

I will probably post my action later today because I am still trying to decide what to do.
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #308 on: March 16, 2014, 06:11:23 am »

Well, the war will go on until one side win I guess?
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #309 on: March 16, 2014, 12:23:08 pm »

Chinese Orders, Turn 5
1. Establish new alternate sources of covert funding and operation in Taiwan, to replace those assets burned in the previous failure.
2. Temporarily close the North Korean border, allowing food aid and refugees to cross the border.  Reduce all oil shipments to North Korea, along with steel, iron, machined goods, and the such, by 25%, to avoid preventing the North Korean population from being able to heat their homes or fuel their power plants.  Redeploy military forces to the Shenyang Military Region in order to enforce this mandate.
2A. In order to "deter accidental airstrikes" against the food aid shipments, offer to the North Koreans (RE: Erils, include a note in your orders if you accept) to allow Chinese guards to escort the aid shipments, so long as it remains outside of the warzone.
2B. Begin establishment of refugee camps at the Yanbian Korean Autonomous Prefecture to temporarily house refugees from North Korea, with an eventual aim at their return home once the war ends.
2C. Warn North Korea that any use of nuclear, biological, or chemical weaponry may result in a reconsideration of those goods permitted to cross into North Korea. 
3. Move naval forces into the Yellow Sea.  Punctiliously observe the maintenance of our national waters, and declare Chinese waters and airspace inviolable by any war combatants to either side. 
4. Continue expansion of submarine forces. 
5. Offer to send civilian relief (food and temporary housing) to South Korea to aid the refugees from Seoul, including the deployment of our remaining two Type 071 amphibious docks to Mokpo and Incheon, along with sufficient military escort to confirm their security in a warzone.  Stress to North Korea that this is not military aid. 
6. Accelerate funding in China's space program. 
7. Establish an international commission with Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, and Malaysia to determine the status of the Spratley and Paracel Islands.  Continue to maintain claims to the entirety of the Paracel Islands (which are Chinese-controlled in their entirety de facto as well) in order to maintain the military security of Hainan Island and Chinese interests in the South China Sea, but signal a willingness to negotiate on the long-term status of the Spratley Islands.  Propose as well a possible extension of the 1978 economic agreements regarding the exploitation of South China Sea oil between Vietnam and China to a possible multinational consortium comprising all of the affected nations to govern mineral and oil rights in the region for all of the involved nations.  Offer the potential for economic investment in the other nations in return for coming to an agreement, pointing to our fruitful partnerships with Central Asia and Mongolia. 
7A. Should negotiations on the South China Sea succeed, begin steps towards the implementation of the proposed military alliance with the ASEAN nations. 

Spoiler: Classified Orders (click to show/hide)

Chinese Long-Term Order Timers
1. Amphibious Ships/Submarines: 10/11 months
2. Carriers: 19/20 months
3. Astana Pipeline: 11/11 months

OOC: And remember, people who take the middle road are open to enfilading fire from both sides. ^_^

EDIT: Updated for revised turn.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 10:11:51 am by Culise »
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #310 on: March 16, 2014, 02:04:21 pm »

I wrote the Japanese turns, and re-wrote the turns result for China and Mexico (I was running out of steam and they were of very low quality.
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #311 on: March 16, 2014, 04:17:06 pm »

The Vatican
  • invite the leaders of Luxemburg, New Zealand and Swaziland to a meting in the Vatican in the letter keep mentioning our 4 great nations (If they chose to come they can read the spoiler)
  • begin construction or at least of some form of solar powered papal blimp capable of reaching high altitudes and staying aloft near indefinitly
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #312 on: March 16, 2014, 09:20:03 pm »

Still open? If so...

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Foreign Affairs:
1) Send 50 million dollars in aid to Australia and 25 million dollars to the United States.
2) Quietly send an envoy to Iran, stating:


Misko:
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Internal Affairs:
1) Continue getting rich on oil exports.
2) Accelerate existing plans for diversifying the economy.
3) Add two new mechanized infantry brigades to the Saudi Arabian National Guard.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 11:51:32 am by Baffler »
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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #313 on: March 16, 2014, 10:32:14 pm »

Germany

Foreign Affairs

Begin sending soldiers by train to the eastern border of Poland. Erect temporary facilities, ie, FOB areas for the troops. Continue to pressure the UN that, despite the current insane US and DPRK, Russia is still a closer threat.  Request cross training of troops with Poland and Lithuania.

Publicly denounce the US nuclear action against Australia, and send aid in the form of chocolate. Everyone loves chocolate.

Ignore the DRPK, but pull out diplomats.

Internal Production
Continue to increase armed forces, while using propaganda to increase the lure of the army.

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Re: Let's Argue to Death!: Turn 4: Korean Invasion
« Reply #314 on: March 17, 2014, 03:23:38 am »

I'm just going to point out that specifics have more chance to succeeds than vague stuff. "Boost the economy" will fails, "Try to secure preferential treatment for my sugar exporting industries in the EU in exchange for passing legislation protecting freedom of the press." is much more likely to succeed (if the EU doesn't implode in nuclear fire on the same turns of course).

Some goes for orders like "Try to use propaganda to boost the army's standing". You did that already, trying the same again  will have minimal effects at best. But maybe you can think of something better to achieve the same goal. Not going to give you ideas, but I'm sure you can think of something.

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