Whoelse didn't extend? I say that this is imperative for two things: Discussion, and continued talk.
Quickpost because gathering broken RL stuffs together.Mastahcheese/EverybodyI'm loathe to post reads on IC's, due both to their experience, and the fact that they're here to help, so null for now.
I'd like everyone here to question your terminology and what you identify with it, first.
In any game-there
will be people who are more experienced than you. There
will be people less experienced than you.
And thus I ask this: Do you fear the more experienced person? Why or why not?
Next: Are you more likely to target the experienced person with an: inspect, block or protect? Why or why not? You may pick any or all of the choices.
This question is to see if there is any discrepancy between personal value attached to certain terms that people deem important.
Mr Cheese
Tiruin: You're scum. Your scumbuddy happened to draw some suspicion due to some of their behavior, but not enough to get lynched. Would they be any particular type of person you'd try to kill in the night at this point? Why? How would you proceed for the next day? Why?
When 'at this point' means 'Day', I presume?
Well I'd target the investigative voices-those which treat the situation with a generalist attitude. Those of probing hints or curious motive--all due because I am to either Rolecop/kill them. For the next day, I will deliberate with said buddy-point out his flaws, probably give hints on what s/he's to do in that matter, and in the next day I shall prod them on the matter--moreso because its an aid to the person regardless of their role and it helps them learn instead of going all aggressive on them.
Why? My playstyle. I side with benevolence no matter what alignment I am on.
Did you ask that question to learn more about me?
Question to everyone: What would be your preferred role? Why?
No preference. Why? Because my playstyle doesn't depend on my role--whatever ability exists in said role is but a tool I can work with-sure, my playstyle could conform to how I use said tool, but it has no direct relation to why I have this role nor on why I'd like it.
For me, the role or the wincon doesn't define the player but their [the player's] principles.
Why do you ask?
The answer to the two bolded bits are the same. I'm asking to get conversation started, basically. See if people give any sort of answer that flat out makes no sense, that sort of thing. Also in part because I like to know more about people, just as a general curiosity. You also failed to answer the first question, whether you prefer to play as town or scum.
So who would you say, so far, has a "generalist attitude"?
You also failed to answer the first question, whether you prefer to play as town or scum.
...I didn't see any question like this.
For me and my principles? Town. Because of their...lone-ish attitude, and I've no bias on my team (unless Mason, wherein I will carefully analyze those who target my stoneworker-buddy) given that you didn't say 'what exactly as town/scum'. When I'm scum, I tend to go overly critical of stuff--I intentionally misplace words from my statements (yet any incident of me forgetting are applicable to both) yet I prefer me playing as town because....yeah. I guess its more of a sentimental thing to me.
So who would you say, so far, has a "generalist attitude"?
...It would be hard to decide, given the general playerbase I'm staring at now. Persus is focused yet spreading his cheese to cover everyone. 4mask seems pointy and being a non-absolutist in his posts, yet I can easily trace his intent (or in the least poke on where its going). Solymr, Graknorke, LARD, and darkpaladin109 are all in my 'introduce me to you and I'll meet you here' zone. Which means I can't develop a qualitative read on them to base quite anything regarding them at all. TDS is being specifically grumpy :I but not generalistic, seemingly absolutist in his perception.
You may get the note that I'm playing along terms used in Ethics here. [Absolutist/Non-absolutist/Generalist/Consequentialist...]
If there's any error with those terms, this is another case of 'Tiruin uses what she sees those terms as instead of what those terms may exactly mean'.
LARDAs for my reads,
Lard: poor, misunderstood, sad, pathetic lump at the bottom of dogpile. (just kidding)
Tiruin: Quite scummy. Voted me on first post with very little explanation. Perhaps that means she is dropping hints in order not to destroy us too bad, maybe she is busy and under strain, or maybe just a pressure vote. Pressure vote seems unlikely do to lack of reasons.
Graknorke: I don't have a very good read on him because he's more experienced, seems to be legitimately fishing very hard for information though. I'm sorry about you needing to pressure me. town lean, and I'm not just saying that to get you on my side.
TDS:
Solymr You are not fishing very hard for information, seem unacceptably ambiguous,LARD: pretty much everything he says points to scum.
, and above reasons.
TheDarkStar: voted with not that much reasoning other than what other people had said. Med scum lean.
On those you find scummy--can you back them up with a little context? As in, I see accusations, but I want to see the exacts.
Point being: There are more variants of who you find scummy--yet those are more on who voted
you out of the general audience.
And the reads on others?
Solymyr: I'd like context for these reads you mention here--primarily on LARD, due to the much-too-general statement.
TDS: What did you mean by "chance" when talking about your reads?
4maskNow, what is the most effective town strategy for day one, in your personal opinion.
LYNCH DAY ONE. LYNCH AT DAY ONE.
LYNCH AT DAY ONE.Now when you speak strategy, it is quite a general category. The strategy for the general townsperson is what I'll answer (given the plurality you speak of here).
What Town is
advised to do is to approach the first day with the concept of deconstructionalism and holism. Deconstructionalism in the way that if they've lacking idea on what to do (and are not biased by their abilities), then they should go all out and question question question. This is where several aspects of the player shines: Personality, awareness and readability. How astute their wording is accompanied by how their questioning process is = information. Any set of that kind of communication = information.
You do not bloody just vote people and leave it at that. That is the way of ignorance. Ignorance wherein you trap yourself in your own box and just fling your vote like a lazy person.I vote personX
^Good example of what NOT TO BLOODY DO AS YOUR DAY POST. ONLY.
Next: Communicate. Forum Mafia is no different from anyotherkindofmafia because it holds its core concept in
communication. You talk: question someone else to usually start a conversation, banter a bit, prod, poke and talk. The receiver does the same, speaking in what s/he believes, and the cycle goes on.
The most effective town strategy IMO, is to
post with pertinent information to the game you're playing in. To question with an open-mind, and to attempt approaches to the scenario in other perceptions or viewpoints than yours. Because in looking at a situation in a holistic manner-one can see how both the receiver responds, and those they talk to react.The biggest failure I mostly see are people acting on impulse. While this is thoroughly subjective--emotions are a ready concoction to explode at any moment. Said person acting or posting 'sillylike' may be under many things (other than being scum), wherein I put forth personal discernment in order to get your ideas clear.
Which means: Communicate.
Everyone: Is there a time to use the FoS, if so, when? What do you believe is the difference between an FoS and a vote, beyond the obvious? Do you believe that the questions asked on day one can help find scum, and why? Would you rather have a power role or a vanilla role, and why?
Tiruin does not use the FoS unless she deems the situation necessary.Now here's a core part of my playstyle that ain't amorphous: I do not use the FoS commonly-but as a point to my statements.
The time depends on how you wish to use it--either as a marker for the public to see, as leverage against the player, or for general tracing. There is no
suggested or
efficient time to employ it-it is in how you use it that matters.
My idea on the vote and FoS are that they are both weapons: Imagine...err, the demoman from Team Fortress 2: He has a gun that shoots...sticky bombs that can be redacted. When you have a bomb on yourself, you either panic, or you panic subtly that it isn't shown. Meaning: Both are used to forward a point (and in the essence of scumhunting: finding out who the other people are without directly revealing that
cheap tactic of 'O HEY I IS TOWNY' thing, in general).
Yeah D1 questions can help find scum--yet I repeat
it is how you ask, then how you follow it up! Minor details within, I state this as a generality due to its obtuse nature.
I'd rather have a chocolate role, really. It tastes better. :I
Meaning: I have no preference for such kinds of roles being ability or without-those abilities which gives spice to the role are just tools to what your
alignment is. And even then--well for me--there are personal principles which guide your actions.
So do you know more about me yet or was that not the intent of those questions?
PS: My style of teaching is much like the Finnish. I teach what to expect in (Forum Mafia) life. Hands-on.