Okay, here I am.
Pufferfish: that vote you just put on me could get you lynched. It seems a lot like what EHF did. You piggyback on everybody else and come up with nothing original, but everything other than your rip off of mastahcheese is vague. But I have more pressing issues. I have attempted to make compelling arguments below, but if you find the anemic squitter that 4mask and mastahcheese have been throwing at me compelling, I'm afraid there's not much I can do.
Mastahcheese: I urge you to reconsider. I have said before that I only mentioned that I was likely to be town when I was trying to make a point about something else. I have also said that trying to appear town is not an absolute scumtell. For me, appearing town is a great advantage for a town because it helps add weight to one's words. You say I am trying to hard to appear town and yet you force me to bring it up over and over again by making the same argument at me.
Everyone: is it frowned upon to look at the times people post, compare that to how long the night took and use that as evidence?
As for my vote on
4mask, This is my reasoning, and I believe that it is better than anybody has on me.
He voted on me right at morning and that seems to fit right in with the mafia's plan.
Jumping on me with almost nothing.
...LARD. The vote switching confirms it. You don't care which one of us gets lynched, because you are the scum. You don't even ask TDS any questions, you just say "Well, I'm going to try to avoid a tie". Only a scum or a townie who thinks he's caught scum would care about that, and you aren't staying on target. You're making the vague accusation of "one of you is guilty because argument" and trying to get one of us lynched. You've covered your tracks well, but the kill on Tiruin is, as you said, a beginner mistake. One that a beginner would make. You're a beginner. A savvy one, but still a beginner, and this is where you slipped up.
Avoiding a tie is a noble deed
Based on the premise that it was a beginner mistake
I do care who is lynched, I just wanted to switch my vote at a sensitive time.
Mastahcheese accused me and gave others the opportunity to jump on me. 4mask obliged almost instantly. It's like he was waiting for someone else to give him an excuse to vote the person who is giving evidence against him. I won't call it an OMGUS, but it is a bandwagon and his argument has a lot of filler and no substance.
His opinion of people is falling all over the place and appears to be highly dependent on other players. He starts in on TDS when TDS had just been accused by Graknorke, and then he switched to me right after Mastahcheese had made a ton of scumhunting against me.
Could someone explain the charges against me that will lead to a lynch on me tomorrow?
This is what he says while he is trying to get the scenario of Lynch TDS and power role the other. If that really was his plan, then this wouldn't be necessary, because the power role will be telling and quite likely clear or convict him if he was targeted. This isn't one of the stronger points, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
4mask: Please give me your other reasons for suspecting TDS other than his irresponsible voting habits, which Graknorke mentioned.
I went after him on the grounds of statement of falsehood, fallacious logic, and scum-oriented play. Which you already know, if you know I attacked him on the grounds of voting habits, because that was right in the mix.
Scum oriented play is ambiguous, and an annoying thing to get accused of.
Fallacious logic is also ambiguous, although slightly more relevant.
Falsehood is just something to accuse someone of. It's no different than calling someone scum.
This will likely be my final post before day end, so I urge you to reconsider. I have explained all my actions and my only crime was to claim that I was likely to be town and then to defend myself when questioned. Mastahcheese, I urge you to reconsider, I don't think this is becoming for an experienced mafia player.
If I do get lynched, here are my reads.
Mastahcheese: Probably not scum. He observed a "lynch one and power role the other" situation that didn't involve him, and broke it up. If he was mafia, he would probably have left it, and at the next day blamed Graknorke, Persus, Puffer, or for an easier shot, me. So
Persus, I would not suggest a vote on Mastahcheese.
Graknorke: I don't know. Seems to be legitimately searching for information. I trust mastahcheese, and mastahcheese was grilling him in D1, so go to the mastah for information. Except that the mastah's interrogation methods are not exactly reasonable.
Pufferfish Definite bandwagon on me, but that's not always a scumtell. It's just as much a newbtell as anything.
TDS I don't know about this one either. He use'd to be very suspicious and then just stopped posting anything useful. It also worries me that he is the only other person voting for 4maskwolf. If he perks up again now that suspicion is off him, then he's more likely to be scum.
Persus Probably busy, but hasn't been doing very much.
4mask Mafia, because he fell into my trap early D1
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This will be my last gasp before the end of the day. I hope I have addressed all the questions. May we strike scum.
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