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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2014, 10:56:36 am »

I've been interested in some kind of sword fighting thing, but I don't think there are any nearby. A shame. Kendo is japanese swords fighting, isn't it?

For me, the sabre is to quick, it's harder to play your opponent.

I'm not sure you're allowed to bring a zweihander to a fencing match.
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2014, 11:19:20 am »

For me, the sabre is to quick, it's harder to play your opponent.

I'm not sure you're allowed to bring a zweihander to a fencing match.
Its typically frowned upon.

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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2014, 11:38:16 am »

There's a lot about martial arts here, but surely the most important question is how much do you lift?
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2014, 12:03:36 pm »

I've been interested in some kind of sword fighting thing, but I don't think there are any nearby. A shame. Kendo is japanese swords fighting, isn't it?

For me, the sabre is to quick, it's harder to play your opponent.

I'm not sure you're allowed to bring a zweihander to a fencing match.
Armoured Combat league lets you, but I don't think that counts as 'fencing' any more.
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2014, 12:28:10 pm »

So what's particular unique about Shito-ryu karate? What does it dedicate itself to move wise? A lot of sweeps, etc?
Nothing really. The beginning training is a bit stiff and formal, but you're supposed to use that as a springboard for more fluid sparring technique. Closed and open hand punches, a bunch of different kicks, etc. How I view it is that all the fancy stuff you see isn't going to be used most of the time because a solid front kick or hammer fist is what you'll be able to put the most force into (without hurting your striking limb). All the other strikes are meant to make you able to do something when you're unable to attack in that most favorable direction, such as when you have someone to your side but you don't have time to turn toward them. Similarly, the heavy stances seem to be meant for falling back into, or learning to work effectively in an undesirable stance, such as when your kick was blocked and your leg dropped into an odd position. They have other uses but I think a lot of the stuff we learn is to promote comfort with all kinds of body positions and striking / blocking motions, so you're never in a stance you haven't trained with and always have a strike or block that you've already practiced available. I suspect it might be the same with other styles. But as I said, the guy whom I originally learned from was a kitchen-sink type.

MZ: If you've practiced each of those styles for at least a couple hundred hours I'm sure there's not much to learn from Karate.

Question for everyone: How common are debilitating injuries (broken bone, organ damage, anything that keeps you from training for more than a couple weeks) in your opinion? I was only ever injured once, on a kicking drill, but that was a kneecap dislocation and I got bad knees from my dad's genetics. I also have never had a student injured while I was teaching, although a student did break her wrist at my school, and I have seen some stupid human tricks at other schools.

(Such as backpedaling and crashing into the mirror, narrowly avoiding being stabbed by the huge shard that dropped straight behind him. Or this one guy who thought it was a great idea to practice an unapproved self-defense move where he flips his partner over and they both drop straight onto her crown. I was wondering if he would break out the folding chairs next.)
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2014, 01:48:03 pm »

Kendo is japanese swords fighting, isn't it?
Indeed it is.

MZ: If you've practiced each of those styles for at least a couple hundred hours I'm sure there's not much to learn from Karate.
I'm well into the thousands of hours for the three I rank in. For a long time, I trained obsessively. That said, there is always new information that can be gleaned from any situation. Kickboxing is a lot different than Karate, at least at first glance. At the very least, I have no idea how to use nunchaku properly. Swords, whips, staves, bows, and absurd chain weapons (looking at you, manrikigusari,)? Sure. Good ol' nunchucks? Nope. If I do decide to go into martial arts again, I'll probably sandbag as a new student until someone figures something out. I'm terribly rusty.

For me, the sabre is to quick, it's harder to play your opponent.
That is precisely why I like it.

There's a lot about martial arts here, but surely the most important question is how much do you lift?
What kind of lift? I can horizontal press well over my body weight with my legs, but I can't bench press any more than about 50lbs, due to my back issues. I curl way more than 50 lbs.
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2014, 07:06:04 pm »

The crummy weightlifting machine in the weight room at my apartment complex doesn't have the weights listed, just the number on the plate. Like, the first tiny plate is Plate 1 and the first normal-size one is Plate 2, etc. 100% useless and I really want to know what was going through the mind of the person who decided that was an ok idea.

Been so long since I've lifted using anything that had a number of kilos or pounds on it, I've forgotten how much.

But I was never really serious with it.

I saw a video of this arm-wrestling competition between a bodybuilder and a seemingly-normal looking but beefy dude. The bodybuilder was just that, but the other dude was into competitive arm-wrestling. And beat the much buffer-looking bodybuilder easily. It looked like he held firm until the bodybuilder got tired, then went in for the kill. Or maybe he was just playing with him. Was this a case of practice at the sport trumping general athleticism? Or is it possible to be a bodybuilder and have big muscles that aren't as strong as they could be if you trained differently?

The arm wrestling guy totally just looked like a somewhat burly plumber in the pub or something.
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2014, 07:29:08 pm »

No martial arts here currently - I did study Wing Chun for a year or so about a decade back, and Muay Thai for about the same length of time, then Bujinkan for about six months a bit more recently.  Unfortunately I've got a muscular/skeletal issue with my right shoulder (winged scapula) that means my range of motion in my right arm is a bit...odd.  It makes some fairly standard motions difficult (and some others much easier), but means that I generally can't do a lot of centre-of-body blocks with my right elbow.  This is a bit of an issue with most martial arts.  :P

So now I do rock climbing/bouldering.  It helps with the shoulder, and it's fun.  I've also been pleasantly surprised with how much improvement I've seen even without too much dedication to the sport (one decent-length session a week for several months), mainly due to learning good technique but also a noticeable physical improvement too.  Still don't have a huge amount of grip/pull strength in my right arm, but it's far better than it was!
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2014, 07:34:43 pm »

Oh man I could never be a rock climber. I just imagine a person hitting the ground like a garbage bag full of marinara sauce and I don't want that person to be me.
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2014, 07:37:46 pm »

Oh man I could never be a rock climber. I just imagine a person hitting the ground like a garbage bag full of marinara sauce and I don't want that person to be me.

Yeah, I tend to do indoor bouldering far more frequently than actual full-on rock climbing (or even indoor height climbing).  It's indoors (don't have to worry about the weather), it doesn't require roping in (don't have to worry about equipment/setup) and it's not particularly high (don't have to worry about marinara!)  :P  Also, big crash mats.  Big, big crash mats.
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2014, 07:41:11 pm »

Wearing a helmet when rock climbing; not so much to protect you, but to help preserve the head when they want to identify your corpse.

That aside, rock climbing was one of the clubs at university I wanted to join but I had a schedule conflict.
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2014, 10:29:21 pm »

Lifting weights is fun. Also stops me from becoming wider than I am tall.
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2014, 10:32:36 pm »

Lifting weights is fun. Also stops me from becoming wider than I am tall.
I'm actually close to as wide as I am tall, but that's just my shoulders/chest. :P

I kid, of course. I am, however, 50+" around the shoulder, and 61" tall.
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Re: Exercise thread: Muscles more chiseled than a Mountainhome
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2014, 10:33:27 pm »

Lifting weights is fun. Also stops me from becoming wider than I am tall.
I'm actually close to as wide as I am tall, but that's just my shoulders/chest.


Are... you a dwarf? :l
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