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[SOLDIER First]

Research whatever gives us Advanced SAS and use that.

[GreatWyrmGold]

We have nowhere near enough to research ANYTHING.

[SOLDIER First]

Orbital science?

[ShadowHammer]

I'd just put stacks on stacks of whatever reaction wheels we currently have onto the tops of each engine column. Advanced SAS would help, but at the moment it's not necessary. No wonder it's tilting though: you're relying entirely on the torque generated by the command pod for control, which is definitely not a lot. It was a good decision to make the rocket wider instead of taller.

[SOLDIER First]

If the rocket is tilting (not spinning but going up straight, consistently tilting to one side), even wit SAS on, it's too heavy.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I'd just put stacks on stacks of whatever reaction wheels we currently have onto the tops of each engine column. Advanced SAS would help, but at the moment it's not necessary. No wonder it's tilting though: you're relying entirely on the torque generated by the command pod for control, which is definitely not a lot. It was a good decision to make the rocket wider instead of taller.

We are relying on that torque because we have no other reaction wheels to add. Unless you think I should add more command pods?

[ShadowHammer]

I'd just put stacks on stacks of whatever reaction wheels we currently have onto the tops of each engine column. Advanced SAS would help, but at the moment it's not necessary. No wonder it's tilting though: you're relying entirely on the torque generated by the command pod for control, which is definitely not a lot. It was a good decision to make the rocket wider instead of taller.

We are relying on that torque because we have no other reaction wheels to add. Unless you think I should add more command pods?

We don't? I was certain we had researched them... My bad. In that case, though, yes, you can just use empty command pods instead.

[~Neri]

I just thought of a brilliant idea!

Launch sections of the ship you want into orbit, dock them together and create your ship, and just continue building a giant ass Space Hulk, as the game progresses get probe tech so it is easier to get stuff up there without losing people, and just slowly create a massive abomination of science in space.

If all the parts were detachable, you could also get rid of unneeded parts and let them float off or smash into a planet or you could move around the parts based on what you plan on doing, or launch up a bunch of landers and just deploy them whenever.

[WillowLuman]

We don't need a probe hulk to get to Minmus. And GWG is hardly ready for such procedures. For all the time I've played this game, I still probably couldn't do it.

What we need is to get crafts into orbit with a useful amount of fuel, without building skyscraper rockets.

Honestly, those XL segments are probably too heavy. Trim them down to I-beams if you can.

[BFEL]

I just thought of a brilliant idea!

Launch sections of the ship you want into orbit, dock them together and create your ship, and just continue building a giant ass Space Hulk, as the game progresses get probe tech so it is easier to get stuff up there without losing people, and just slowly create a massive abomination of science in space.

If all the parts were detachable, you could also get rid of unneeded parts and let them float off or smash into a planet or you could move around the parts based on what you plan on doing, or launch up a bunch of landers and just deploy them whenever.

1. Its...not brilliant at all
2. Docking ports are a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way off.
3. GWG isn't at the Space Hulk level. In fact I'M probably not at the Space Hulk level, and I have a enormous amount of experience he doesn't and am just generally better. At everything. *This statement provided by the Narcissism Society of America*

What we need is to get crafts into orbit with a useful amount of fuel, without building skyscraper rockets.

WHICH IS WHY I SUGGESTED AERO. FUCKING. DYNAMICS.
Jets do all that and more.

[Anvilfolk]

I'd go for shorter but wider rockets. A 6-symmetry stacks of fuel plus engines. Perhaps yet another stage just below those, with boosters (if you have side decouplers, otherwise perhaps boosters just below the engines?). The first stage of boosters+LVTs should get you to where there's less atmosphere, and then the second stage ditches all of that weight and is more efficient at altitude.

If not, then perhaps just get a rocket to go to some other biome and get a soil sample. Those are always worth a bit!

[BigD145]

You can't build too wide or too tall or you run into problems. There is a sweet spot that works well. If we want to work within GWG's constraints might I suggest more Kerbin research to unlock more science? Go back to old designs we know can get into orbit and deorbit themselves. Tweak them a bit. It'll be repetitive but that's the point. Know how to orbit and circularize and everything. This will help hit targets on the Mun and Minmus.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I just thought of a brilliant idea!

Launch sections of the ship you want into orbit, dock them together and create your ship, and just continue building a giant ass Space Hulk, as the game progresses get probe tech so it is easier to get stuff up there without losing people, and just slowly create a massive abomination of science in space.

If all the parts were detachable, you could also get rid of unneeded parts and let them float off or smash into a planet or you could move around the parts based on what you plan on doing, or launch up a bunch of landers and just deploy them whenever.

We don't have docking ports.

Honestly, those XL segments are probably too heavy. Trim them down to I-beams if you can.

I could try that.

[Rabid_Cog]

GWG, I suggest you try easier things first. Forget landing anywhere. That is crud difficult. Just go for a flyby. You don't even need to orbit Mun or Minmus. When you start getting being able to get smaller ships into orbit efficiently, then you can start going for other planetery bodies.

[BFEL]

GWG, I suggest you try easier things first. Forget landing anywhere. That is crud difficult. Just go for a flyby. You don't even need to orbit Mun or Minmus. When you start getting being able to get smaller ships into orbit efficiently, then you can start going for other planetery bodies.

No, I disagree. He needs to shoot for Eeloo.

At first this was a joke, but then I remembered "OH YEAH, that's about when *I* started figuring out KSP. When I tried (and failed) to reach Eeloo."

Basically I tried to get to Eeloo for a community game, failed horribly, but that was the first time I really understood how far my fuel would take me. It kinda gave me an appreciation for Delta-V.

Also it takes a LONG time messing with maneuver nodes to even get a shot lined up to fail, so he could learn about those too