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Author Topic: Twitch plays pokemon!  (Read 200505 times)

Mageziya

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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #195 on: February 17, 2014, 12:08:10 am »

We broke it. There has been admin intervention. Sub only mode now and server shenanigans.
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« Reply #196 on: February 17, 2014, 12:09:35 am »

We broke it. There has been admin intervention. Sub only mode now and server shenanigans.
They're switching servers to reduce the delay to ~15 seconds.

Sub-only mode is so that the owner can explain without spam.
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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #197 on: February 17, 2014, 12:11:28 am »

It begins, AGAIN.

Many shall suffer before this game is finally completed.
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Every dwarf, every dwarven man, women, and child, that comes to our forts will die there; it's truly sad when you think about it. And we ask our selves, why? Why do we push forward, knowing this fate, that we are destined for failure? Because, this game grasps the concept of mortality. Some games you can never lose, but we all stop eventually, causing a 'death' to those game's 'worlds'. Dwarf Fortress gives us a definite end, knowing that we will leave that world eventually, and move on to more.

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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #198 on: February 17, 2014, 12:13:40 am »

Many Bothans died to bring us this server change.
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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #199 on: February 17, 2014, 12:13:48 am »

What is the statistical probability of the RNG bot using an HM (assuming one's even taught)? Let's find out!



Minimum sequential keypresses:

Start
Down (to Pokemon)
A (to Pokemon menu)
A (assuming the first Pokemon in the Party has, say, Cut)
A (use Cut)

Since each command has a 1/8 probability of being entered (Up, Down, Left, Right, A, B, Start, Select), the probability of this happening is (1/8)^5. Approximately 0.003%. Now realize any menu navigation whatsoever becomes exponentially difficult if there's any deviation whatsoever (say, one Pokemon knows more than one usable ability or it's not taught to the first one etc.)

This is gonna be crazy. I predict the game ends before RNG even reaches Lt. Surge.

Note, the Down to Pokemon step is semioptional, since the menu remembers the last option you were on; it's more like "be lucky enough to already be on Pokemon when you approach the tree." Also, the likelyhood of pressing Start has been weighted lower (the rest are equal.) There's also the situation where, when presented with multiple simultaneous inputs, Pokemon will take Up over Down, Right over Left, and A over B, which no doubt skews the odds some unknown degree.

Obviously most of those caveats are unquantifiable without knowing the exact weightings, but there is one factor you didn't consider: at any given step, there's only a few options that are directly counterproductive. If they get into the Pokemon menu and press Left, for example, nothing will happen; it's just a race to see whether A or B is selected first, meaning that step has a 50% chance to succeed (lower if Magikarp is in the party at the time, since then Up/Down come into play.)

Speaking from anecdotal evidence, I've seen Mn use Cut dozens of times; the problem is that he has to use it while facing a particular tile. So far he's successfully cut some grass, and gotten close to cutting the Gym bush once. I really doubt he's gonna get into the Gym without help in any reasonable timeframe, though.

Side news, Charizard just hit 50, so if we ever advance the fights will be a cakewalk!

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« Reply #200 on: February 17, 2014, 01:40:09 am »

Start button has been disabled, it seems. Although I think I've seen a few get through without being greyed out, so it may only be disabled for people who are spamming it, or perhaps it's only being let through randomly. Don't really blame them, start spam was causing a lot of problems.
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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #201 on: February 17, 2014, 01:44:43 am »

The revival of the Mighty Helix will be the most beautiful and tragic and beautiful thing to ever happen. It will almost certainly be released.

It took me awhile to realize why it is the true god while the S.S. Ticket is the false god. The ticket has come and gone in use, and it will be there forever, useless. The Helix can ascend. It's not the second coming of Christ, but rather the statue that your entire belief is centered around coming to life. The living statue can then change form, ascend further, and it will be beautiful.

I need sleep.
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Every dwarf, every dwarven man, women, and child, that comes to our forts will die there; it's truly sad when you think about it. And we ask our selves, why? Why do we push forward, knowing this fate, that we are destined for failure? Because, this game grasps the concept of mortality. Some games you can never lose, but we all stop eventually, causing a 'death' to those game's 'worlds'. Dwarf Fortress gives us a definite end, knowing that we will leave that world eventually, and move on to more.

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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #202 on: February 17, 2014, 01:57:54 am »

Start button has been disabled, it seems. Although I think I've seen a few get through without being greyed out, so it may only be disabled for people who are spamming it, or perhaps it's only being let through randomly. Don't really blame them, start spam was causing a lot of problems.

It's been 'throttled'. Only a few start presses get through, not sure how many.
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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #203 on: February 17, 2014, 03:43:46 am »

RNG just released Charizard.
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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #204 on: February 17, 2014, 04:11:39 am »

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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #205 on: February 17, 2014, 04:13:31 am »

Turns out that there is a fail state that I never considered. Releasing all pokemon except for Magikarp and having no money to buy pokeballs to catch a pokemon that can learn cut. There's a new rng stream going with pokemon yellow which shouldn't have the same problem as pikachu cannot be released.
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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #206 on: February 17, 2014, 04:14:49 am »

I love the internet.
People don't like being told what to do, which is what that option was attempting.
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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #207 on: February 17, 2014, 04:21:32 am »

I love the internet.
People don't like being told what to do, which is what that option was attempting.
That's also just the most popular option in general i think. The creator thought everyone agreed with him. He was wrong.
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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #208 on: February 17, 2014, 04:28:43 am »

I love the internet.
People don't like being told what to do, which is what that option was attempting.
That's also just the most popular option in general i think. The creator thought everyone agreed with him. He was wrong.
That too. Most people who actually use polls/IRC/the subreddit seem to be anti-Eevee and pro-Lapras.
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Re: Twitch plays pokemon!
« Reply #209 on: February 17, 2014, 04:28:59 am »

I love the internet.
People don't like being told what to do, which is what that option was attempting.
That's also just the most popular option in general i think. The creator thought everyone agreed with him. He was wrong.

What does one do when their creation runs away from them?
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