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Total Members Voted: 7

[kj1225]

We have plenty to offer them. We have the supplies and know how to make a proper town and there's the prospecting idea and the trading ships idea.

[Kansa]

Well we might have something to offer them we won't really know unless we try talking to them.

[sjm9876]

Anyway, just to check, so we might be able to begin stockpiling.
All for a cloudship at some point in the future say aye.
All against say nay.

Aye.

[Kansa]

Aye

[Alexandria]

The gnolls are not stupid they can make a town if they want. They chose not to. They have weapons which means they know how to prospect for raw materials. They live out here and make no attempt to contact other peoples which means they don't want to trade.

By all means try it I'll be preparing for the inevitable attack.


Aye. (( But no raiding. ))

[Sanure]

Few things:

1. Remind me never to go get food while leaving you all unattended.
2. Gnolls haven't a clue that you guys even exist.
3. All of my yeses for a cloudport.
4. shoud i make a new poll?

[kj1225]

Aye. to all of the above.

[sjm9876]

3. All of my yeses for a cloudport.

The GM has spoken. And if it makes anyone feel better, I promise I'll play nice. At least until an aerial bombardment is actually called for.

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[GreatWyrmGold]

We're going to get attacked regularly by Gnolls who have mages and summoners and scouts who know the ground better then we do.

We have no hope of hiding something as big as an airship in construction from them, let alone concealing that enormous build up of mana. Word will get out long before we're ready we don't have the power to conceal something that large.

We don't need to conceal the existence of the airships--shipping stuff with them would make that impossible. No, we just need to conceal the details.
It's the closest thing to a patent we can get in this time and place.

Can I ask something. How are you going to get a port into the sky? The amount of mana alone is insane.

Not a literal one. Probably a mooring tower, with most of the 'port on the ground. Like they did with real airships.

Why is everyone assuming we make the ship. We could just break onto one with the necessary gems and fly away

Are there even other airships?

And they are not going to willingly let us live here. They have no reason to do it we have nothing to offer them and pose a constant threat.

Oh, so the gnolls are immune to trade?

Anyway, just to check, so we might be able to begin stockpiling.
All for a cloudship at some point in the future say aye.
All against say nay.

Aye.

Aye, eventually.

[sjm9876]

Why is everyone assuming we make the ship. We could just break onto one with the necessary gems and fly away

AS in, break onto a ship and convert it there and then. Also - note the

[Alexandria]

I give. I'll let what I'm sure is coming convince you instead. We aren't going to be making peace with the Gnolls or talking them into letting us live here peacefully. Not without at least one serious battle.


If you want to try to negotiate I suggest you make a golem that can talk rather then one of you walking in.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Why is everyone assuming we make the ship. We could just break onto one with the necessary gems and fly away

AS in, break onto a ship and convert it there and then. Also - note the

That would be kinda silly. The gems are by far the hardest part. It's like taking a car with you to steal a spare tire for the car, so you can have a spare-tired car.

I give. I'll let what I'm sure is coming convince you instead. We aren't going to be making peace with the Gnolls or talking them into letting us live here peacefully. Not without at least one serious battle.

You're so pessimistic. Tell me, what in history makes you so certain that we can't make peace with the gnolls? French and other trade with the Native Americans? Similar relations between Europeans and Africans? The number of longstanding historical enemies that worked together and became friends? Sure, the gnolls aren't as similar to us as those assorted groups were, but I highly doubt that we can't find an arrangement. They aren't monsters, they're people.

[Alexandria]

Your all expecting a group that has us outnumbered, out gunned and has far superior fighters in every respect to just happily let us move in.

Where as I expect that they are not going to want us here. Maybe your all right. Or maybe I'm right we'll have to wait and see. But I suspect theres a reason the Gnolls lives so far away from everybody else.

[Sanure]

GUYS!!!! I posted the turn

[sjm9876]

Why is everyone assuming we make the ship. We could just break onto one with the necessary gems and fly away

AS in, break onto a ship and convert it there and then. Also - note the

That would be kinda silly. The gems are by far the hardest part. It's like taking a car with you to steal a spare tire for the car, so you can have a spare-tired car.

It was in response to the problems with attention drawing with the shipbuilding, thus eliminating that problem. And again - note the


As for diplomacy, can we just wait and see? We can give it a quick shot, and if they try to kill us we go for self defense.