notquitethereIf I were scum I'd get rid of the competent active players, like you, Solymr, MOWE or Cheese. That'd make more sense than DarkStar.
You consider me competent?
Cheese
Well, frick. I was about to consider voting Caz, except for the fact that he always frelling acts like this in every game I've read/played with him, but Wolf makes a pretty compelling point, I hadn't even considered that. I'm really wanting to see your response to that, NQT.
[1] Caz always acts like this? Interesting. [2] What do you think of my reply to Wolf?
I didn't know he was scum. The way that Solymr was wording his questions seemed to me like he was pretty convinced that IG was scum, so I went on with my line of questioning under the assumption that he was. Since Solymr never thought to point this out like you have now, it made it look (to me at least) like he wasn't going to argue the point, since it seemed as if he were already sure of the fact.
But after the NK on DarkStar, which made no sense to me, at least from a "Solymr is scum" perspective, I decided that maybe he simply didn't think of it in that light.
That puts your comments into a bit more perspective, thanks.
Yeah, I overlooked that one. SBC hasn't really seemed scummy to me (or present) so I guess I wasn't focusing on them as much as other people. And yeah, I think it's notable, but not enough to warrant a lurk-lynch if that's what you're getting at.
Well, we've got so many inactive players right now that it's probable best to get rid of the more suspicious of the active lurkers first.
[1] Well, in here and Semeter w love or whatever it's called, which is 100% of the games I've been in them with.
[2] Logical, laid out very well and covers all the points. I'm not going to say "NQT is 100% town" because there's always the possibility, but I can't find any fault through it.
MyOwnWorstEnemyThirdly, mastahcheese, upon looking back at the goings on lately, [1] you've been acting very differently than you were in the BM. [2] D1 you went after Solymr and basically ignored IG, pursuing Solymr relentlessly and seeming to think that every little oddly worded phrase was a scumtell. He even told you that English isn't his first language and small little inconsistencies in his wording arose from this. Even with IG and all of his slips and tells, you never abandoned your pursuit of Solymr. Even when it was just down to small little things like when Solymr said this. and you said this. And then you called him out here. I fail to see how this is scummy. [3] I was town in my first mafia game and I was constantly asking myself "is this how a townie should act?" because I didn't want to mess up and give off any scum tells. [4] I do believe Solymr is town and that you were trying your damnedest to catch him in a slip. [5] Yet it's D2 and you've dropped your case on him. [6] Were you trying to save IG by drawing attention away from him and now that it's not a very worthwhile endeavor, you've moved on to other things?
[1] Do you expect me to act the same way all the time? I can try different strategies.
[2] Yes, I do tend to look at everything someone says (when I'm pushing them) as a scumtell, in one way or another. The reason I do this is so I don't let the pressure off, hoping that eventually they crack. Look back at the very BM you referenced. Did I not do the same to 4maskwolf, until eventually he outed himself as cop? (and subsequently got lynched) It's a style, maybe not a very good one, but it seemed to work on Makeinu in that game, and then 4mask, so in my eyes, being relentless, even somewhat unreasonably so (in some people's eyes) gets results.
The reason I was ignoring IG at the time was because I decided to focus on a single target. There were already people going after IG, and I prefer to be the main voice when pressuring someone, not simply an additional one. I don't think my method would work as well if I didn't have the person's total attention. Again, look back at the BM on my cases on Makeinu and 4mask.
[3] There was some point in that BM where I mentioned this, in some regard. That I simply don't care about being noticed, or looking scummy, because I don't care if people see me as scummy or not. I don't care if town wants me dead, I don't care if scum wants me dead. I'm going to go after scum, and if someone doesn't like that, then they're entitled to that view, because I've got cases to press.
[4] Like I said earlier, I could be wrong. I could be wrong on every single person I've had suspicions on. It's part of the game. I thought he looked scummy at the time, you didn't.
[5] Here, let me go find that explanation again. Ah, here is it, in my analysis of DarkStar's final moments.
Currently, I'm confused about why multiple people are seriously considering lynching IG. NQT's argument is that IG won't seriously answer a question, and Solymr doesn't like the answer that IG gave for another question. NQT's argument would work with other evidence, but Solymr's argument makes no sense. If IG was scum, he'd probably give a more detailed scum answer than town answer, since he would have spent much more time thinking about what to do as scum than town.
It seems to me like he had his suspicions on Solymr. I could go back to my argument of the possibility of Solymr being scum, and offing him to get rid of the only person other than me to have suspicions on him, since just killing me would too obvious of a scumtell. But then again, it also seems like the sort of thing that scum would set up to frame him with, knowing that I'm going after him...
I going to give you the benefit of a doubt on this one, Solymr, I don't think you did it. But I'm still watching you.
The reason I dropped the case is because to me, DarkStar's death looked like a set up. He had pretty much no major cases on anyone (he basically thought practically everyone was slightly leaning scum), but he had minor cases on Solymr and DarkPaladin. I suspect that whoever killed DarkStar was hoping that someone would try to use this, and go after Solymr, since, you know, pretty much everyone has pointed out the problems with DP. I could be
wretchedly overthinking this, but it made me second guess myself on Solymr.
[6] No, I wasn't trying to save him, I was just trying to think beyond what everyone else was thinking about.