I'll go back and answer all the stuff that seems relevant to now. If I miss something, just let me know. I'm loaded with homework and trying to get at least something in.
Tiruin:Everyone else: Do you seriously believe that today should be spent in debate and all? What if the scumteam knows how to circumnavigate the usual 'scumtells' and play easy? As in, play on the aggressive?
How do you treat scumtells when done by a player who has a reputation of being scummy? How do you treat analysis from a player who has a reputation of being 'good' at hiding scumtells?[/b]
Well I think D1 can be a bunch of debate. What else could it be? Lies are easy to keep to in the beginning, but are hard to maintain over time. Here's where we begin testing the mettle of the scum and seeing how good they are at acting. There is no such thing as perfect. The scumteam may know how to avoid
most scumtells, but odds are they'll slip up somewhere.
Scummy players also have a norm I would guess. Even if they're scummy as town, I'd expect the scumminess when they're actually scum to be quite different. If they're good at hiding scumtells, well like I said, they have to slip up sometime.
Mehve/MOWE
Tiruin:
You've been active on the forum, but not here. Any particular reason why?
Mostly personal organization. What hit me from not posting here (as well as more prioritized threads like my own BM and other stuffs) was my emotional state. It was...not good. However I will state in all honesty and be open to all scrutiny when I say that I was not intentionally staying away from this thread (I mean, wow. A whole mafia day. x__x Goodness.)
...So no particular reason why, which is directly related to Mafia.
What's the "Mehve" about?
And I think RL and having your own priorities are particular reasons. I hope things get better for you!
Mastahcheese:Everyone who has cast their vote: I want you to please restate why you are voting the person you are voting, and don't quote yourself from an earlier time.
I'm not sure if you still want an answer, but I'll give one anyway. I voted IG because he seemed like the scummiest person around. He gave virtually no explanation for his answers and even when I called him out on it, the explanations weren't very good. And then he got all defensive for no apparent reason over a question that didn't accuse him of anything.
Everyone else
DarkStar is dead. What are your thoughts on this? What are all of your reads so far?
See my answer to wolf below.
My reads:
Wolf: Town; very active; appears to be aggressive; focusing a bit much on the lurkers, but that's understandable.
NQT: Town; somewhat active and I can't find anything about them that stands out.
Caz: Slight scum lean; hasn't really been around and hasn't posted anything really extensive.
Tiruin: Nothing yet; hasn't been around with good reason.
SBC: Again, nothing yet; hasn't been around much with good reason.
Scientist: Slight scum lean; quarreled with IG at the beginning, but disappeared afterwards.
Mastahcheese: Slight scum lean; seemed a bit too focused on Solymr for a few slips that didn't seem to constitute a vote.
Darkpaladin: Slight scum lean; had a few slips and suspicious things, but nothing to severe.
Solymr: Slight scum lean; also had a few slips, but that was probably due to English being their second language and just being new.
Probably the best evidence we could use from DarkStar, however, is the fact that he was kind enough to give us his reads.
My list:
4maskwolf: He's active and tries to get discussion going. Town lean, but this is not certain.
IG: I'm not sure; very slight town lean.
Mastahcheese: Slight scum lean for the way he's going after Solymr. There's a reason there, but he's taking it as a worse scumtell than it should be.
NQT: Null read. He hasn't said much, and the things he's said don't give me much of a read.
Caz: Slight scum/neutral read due to lurking.
SBC: Slight scum/neutral lean due to even more lurking than Caz.
DP109: Scum lean from his posts combined with how new he is. Of course, he has a neutral lean, too, since he has said that he wants to stay out of the way.
Solymr: Slight scum lean, but I think he's mostly just an inexperienced player.
Tiruin: Null read due to excused inactivity.
MOWE: Slight scum/neutral read due to lurking.
+!!scientist!!+- Slight scum/neutral read due to lurking.
No lynch: Not actually a player.
All the "Slight scum/neutral read due to lurking" people are just the ones that haven't really said anything in the last several pages. They are probably more likely neutral than scum, though, because the scum want mislynches while the neutrals have much more specific targets.
The simple fact is that he didn't really form much of a case on anyone, but there has to be some kind of a connection.
Another question for everyone:
What are your thoughts on DarkStar's reads? Do you have anything else of importance to add to the investigation?
I think it's quite suspicious that TDS was night killed and he didn't seem like a threat to the scum. I think that's a big thing. It makes me wonder.
As for him not having any reads on anyone, it's understandable. D1 for me is just mass confusion.
NQT:MOWE, Solymyr, IG, as vote leader, unvoted and shortened. He could be voting someone else to break the tie and remove the danger of himself being lynched. Does that look like the actions of a person who's receiving advice from someone in a private chat?
I definitely think it was a collaboration. I think there was a reason behind what he did, probably involving drawing attention away from his scum partners. Although he did mention that he thought that one or two votes in RVS doesn't matter. I think eventually he just gave up after the votes turned out to be more significant than what he'd originally thought.
Wolf:Everyone: What are your analyses of the game so far?
I'm wondering why there was just one kill last night. I think it's highly unlikely that all of those with a kill last night chose to kill the same person. I can understand the Good not killing randomly because from what I understand, they're not particularly evil. But it seems like the Bad, being "essentially a SK with an additional goal," would probably go for a kill each night. The scum, however, I'd always expect to be killing someone each night. As of right now, this is the only occurrence that has really caught my attention.
MOWE: You voted for IG and then disappeared off of the map. Why? Did you read the conversations that were had afterwards?
I voted him for reasons stated earlier in my post. I disappeared because of things happening in my life. Like visiting my boyfriend, which I do every Sunday. And school and a shopping trip that kept me out until late Monday night. I posted in places requiring little to no thought when I could find the time.
I just read through the conversations. I didn't have time before. Hence why I didn't post here, although I doubt they'd have changed my thoughts on IG. Why do you ask?
All the lurkers: What do you think of how the game has progressed so far?
I'm pretty cool with it. We lynched a confederate D1, which is a really good thing. Although there are more lurkers/absent people than I'd like.