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Lordraymond

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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2014, 09:59:33 pm »

My problem with archers is that even if I sit like 5 tiles away, I will miss about 10 shots for every one I actually do anything with, and then even that's blocked most of the time. Am I just extremely unlucky?

Edit: RIP peasant crossbowman. You were doing great until you missed 50 bolts in a row on that one prone guy (does prone reduce chance of hitting with range?) Then you got stabbed in the face when you tried to beat him down, despite three of his limbs being broken. You will not be missed.

Yes, it is harder to hit a prone guy. Maybe not even possible? A couple of versions ago, it was indeed impossible to hit them at all. You could hit them til it fell down, then you had to go in for the kill in close combat.

I like being a hunter. as in literally being a hunter, going out hunting animals, butcher them, sell the meat, buy arrows for the money I earn. Good way to start the game if you are in the mood for some RPG.. which you probably are, not much point starting as a peasant otherwise.

I like the idea of peasant just because I feel like I can actually feel proud of what I accomplish as a peasant. All it is is a different tagline in a legends screen I'll never check, but I like it nonetheless. It feels a lot more badass to think I'm just some random commoner who picked up his sword one day and decided to fight evil - of course, it goes to show how successful most RPG protagonists would actually be. That is, not very.
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2014, 05:20:52 pm »

Playing as a Peasant is for PRO'S, it's fun and hard as hell.
Conquering the world as a peasant is like rising from being a weak twig to becoming a GOD! :P
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2014, 05:29:54 pm »

My problem with archers is that even if I sit like 5 tiles away, I will miss about 10 shots for every one I actually do anything with, and then even that's blocked most of the time. Am I just extremely unlucky?

Edit: RIP peasant crossbowman. You were doing great until you missed 50 bolts in a row on that one prone guy (does prone reduce chance of hitting with range?)

Were you sneaking at the time? You cannot hit prone targets with ranged attacks while sneaking. Don't ask me why, it's just how it is; you'll hit just fine if you stop sneaking, but that obviously also makes it easier for others to attack you.

Peasants generally have a hard time getting anywhere without previous training. The chance of targets to block your attacks depends on the difference between their and your respective levels, so if you're a skilled archer already, they'll have a harder time blocking your shots. If you're adverse to "dry" training, you can train by hunting. Animals don't wear shields and rarely actively aggress.
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2014, 02:10:12 am »

A good thing to do as a peasant is to start as a crab fisherman. Go to a local beach and sneak around looking for crabs and horseshoe crabs. You can grab them and the crab's pincers will not be able to penetrate cloth armor. It's a good idea to be fully covered in cloth or better clothing though, as they can cause minor wounds leaving scars or even snip off fingers and toes and maybe facial features too. I think horseshoe crabs are even safer.

You can also hit them with a blunt object many times over and over and over for training maces or such if you don't let your adventurer get a killing blow. Normal crabs also give one meat for each of their legs when butchered, so they are relatively valuable if you want some of the local coinage for how safe they are to fight.

Crabs are easy to find and fairly slow moving. Beaches don't have bogeymen and I haven't ran into any dangerous creatures there. I don't know if bandits will ambush you on a beach or not; but starting as an outsider might help with that? I'm not sure.
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2014, 03:32:34 am »

Personally, I've never understood the point of playing a Peasant if you're just going to grind the stats up in a safe way anyways. It's not really a harder difficulty at that point, just a longer time investment.
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2014, 03:15:57 pm »

Personally, I've never understood the point of playing a Peasant if you're just going to grind the stats up in a safe way anyways. It's not really a harder difficulty at that point, just a longer time investment.

Agreed. And theres the times you cant get a backpack
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2014, 01:49:21 am »

Personally, I've never understood the point of playing a Peasant if you're just going to grind the stats up in a safe way anyways. It's not really a harder difficulty at that point, just a longer time investment.

Agreed. And theres the times you cant get a backpack

Well having backpack has nothing to do with peasant start. If a peasant belongs to civilization, he will get backpack. If he's an outsider, he won't, just like heroes and demigods.

I guess peasants are there for a kind of "extreme mod". Yes, they can be trained with wildlife to be legendary in everything, but so can heroes and demigods, too. It's probably just about the player. If I play as a peasant, I won't grind stats because that is boring. If I'd start as a peasant and then used a hour to grind peasant's skills to same level with demigod, I could have had just started with a demigod. But if you won't grind stats with crabs (and mainly seek hilarious deaths), peasants are pretty interesting.
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2014, 08:15:58 am »

Stat and skill grinding are essential, even for a demigod. I wouldn't think about doing quests until I have at least five mastered skills.

Something aggressive and weak is great for training dodging, blocking and armour use, like a werebeast.
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2014, 04:05:57 pm »


Something aggressive and weak is great for training dodging, blocking and armour use, like a werebeast.

Yeah, but even naked non-transformed werebeasts can grapple, which is potentially dangerous if your running a 50x '.' macro to level faster. If your willing to grind, look for something ridiculously innocuous - crabs, ducks, rabbits, owls, whatever - and as long as you can get next to them they'll attack you without fleeing. Just be sure to set your combat preferences to "close combat" "stand ground" and "stand ground" and watch that armor user, shield user and dodge skyrocket.
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2014, 06:23:03 pm »

If you have some good sneaking skill then a pack of ravens will level you up fast,only problem is that it'll be too much for your character and he'll pass out from exertion
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Re: Are peasants supposed to be possible
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2014, 07:29:50 pm »

Here's something fun to do.

I usually play as an outsider anyways for the cool little 'wildlife' sort of experience, so I would suggest training with only knives or spears. Although hammers are arguably the best weapon for fighting the big guys, you will probably have extreme difficulty getting there anyways.

Basically...

1. Train throwing a bunch

2. Train sneak a bunch

3. Run circles around a bandit camp whilst in stealth, finding a good spot to come out (Close to legendary ambusher, you will literally be able to run up to them before they can find you)

4. Start chucking your knives like Katarina.

With a bit of luck and good positioning, you will be able to cripple the archers before they can fire, and if you have enough speed you can kite the rest whilst stabbing. Most bandits lack proper armor, and if your spear is made of decent material you can get a good stab on their arm/leg and keep them from doing anything to you. You're going to need a bunch of knives, though, so you may need to knock off some peasants.

Of course, you can also just wrestle neutral wildlife enough so you can sprint in your iron armor. (Fun fact, a crab once killed me because I payed no attention as I was wrestling it and it wrecked my eyes.)
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