What I'm gonna do is go through here and give a look at all the ideas. If it looks good, I'm gonna tag it [Council] for them to look at. Otherwise, I'll ask questions and such.
Technically my char is on a mission, but...
Multi-Role weapon Mk.III
What we do, is we take a Mk.II of this line and replace laser rifle fire module with blaster rifle fire module and regular durable blade with Force Monosword. That's gonna be bulky, but you'll have a much better idea of where you monosword blade is because of the rifle part. And more firepower. And more cutting potential. Hence Mk.III designation.
Requirements: Exoskeleton strength, Uncon +1, Dex+1
Price: 6-8 tokens with Blaster Rifle clips?
Two main features represented:
- collapsible stock, doubling as mechanical safety for the trigger on Mk.II, on Mk.III it is also mode switcher that activates the blade when collapsed.
- a hole between the main line of optics on the top and cutting edge on the bottom, your support hand goes there when firing; not present on Mk.III because blade isn't always there to obstruct way. For Mk.III, when Force Monosword is deactivated you just lay your support hand like you do on a regular rifle, just be sure your hand is not there when you activate the blade.
[Council]
Well, technically I'm dead, so I can't tinker.
BUT I DON'T SEE THE POLICE, SO I WILL ANYWAY. This is mostly going to be stuff that already exists in a different form, because I lack imagination. Also focused on exo stuff, because that's been kind of my thing these last three years.
1. something pretty simple, an entire hand/arm made from the same stuff as the pimpcane. Pretty straightforward. means you got the interface thingy build in as well, so you can't lose it.
2. If you'll all allow me a moment of sillyness, maybe even an entire body made of the stuff. No idea how we'd make sight and hearing and shit work, but being able to repurpose your entire body would be neat.
3. A force infuser that uses the entire body to charge up the battery? To allow for multiple charges or one big charge?
4. Maybe we could put some of the weirder doctor things from the days of yore in the armoury? Like Renen's body and his bullettime? Those could come in handy, and I'm sure there are more that I've forgotten.
5. I don't suppose our tech boys could reverse engineer the deathcube HEP pyramid? I know they engineer the HEP from it, but maybe we could get a sort of knock-off deathcube?
Those are the first things that spring to mind, I might come up with more stuff later. Don't hold your breath.
1. We could do that, but then you'd basically have to roll everytime you want to move your arm.
2.Same problem.
3. ?
4. We could look into it, but the problem is that they're fairly unbalanced unless they're massively expensive and only a few people have them.
5. As in one that replicates the thing rather than just the power output?
Well, technically I'm dead, so I can't tinker.
BUT I DON'T SEE THE POLICE, SO I WILL ANYWAY.
"No Pancaek. You are the police."
And then Pancaek was a tinkerer.
Anyway, let's join the festival, shall we?
1. Anomaly sand, unchained (as discussed earlier). Tuned to work with a "tuning fork" made of that super-vibrating metal we have recently discovered among Hephaestus anomalies.
2. Those crystals from the Crystalline Projector. Does anyone else remember that they were hinted at being "mildly psychic"? Time to use that up to eleven. (That has been my intention for a long time, and that's why it was even scheduled for research on Hephaestus... let's say that research succeeded or something.)
3. Those same crystals, only now as a body modification. Finally time to finish the Doctor's experiment of infusing flesh with crystals, only now in a controlled fashion with the user being End-boosted during the infusion.
4. The Pyramid we created HEP from. Originally, it had a very different "firing" mechanism, shooting more "lightning" or "force" (see: Milno's mangled limb) than "fire", and shooting upon Exo (or was it Will? I don't remember). Let's replicate that.
5. Living metal of Pimpcane, body enhancement. INJECT IT INTO YOURSEEEELF-style, with patching up wounds from inside, growing "bones", or maybe even flying. Prone to danger of cutting you up.
That's it for now, I guess. More coming soon!
1. We can do that but the [Council] would have to ok the use of a technically limitless, self replicating weapon with the very real possibility of gray goo.
2-3: Could work. [Council]
4. Another for the hep pyramid. ok.
5. Another for living metal body parts. Ok.
1. A sledgehammer that resonates a lot and causes earthquakes, destroys buildings, shatters armour. The higher your skill the better the control of course. Could be based on that super resonating metal from the gratesplosion.
2. A floating telekinesis hand that can grab and manipulate things from a distance.
3. Something based on Skylar's god computer. Reprogram reality.
1. Get out of here, tesla. Resonant frequencies don't work like that.
2. Get out of here, Elfin Lied. Also, do you mean hands made of telekinesis or robot hands that are controlled by your mind?
3. Talk to hap~
1. What about burnout manip variants, like the amps from M14? If you can only use manipulators a couple of times, they ought to become more powerful. Alternatively, the ability to connect several brains together ghostship style (if those still work) for the same purpose.
2. Lethal, more heavily AOP-inspired variants of the crowd-wire gloves might be cool.
3. Summoning box: a small auto-manipulator designed for quick bursts of space magic to attract the attention of... something else. Throw it at a UWM-entrenched position and run away, fast.
The problem isn't that you can only use it a few times. The problem is the angry god on the other end that notices you poking it in the ass. That doesn't make the amps stronger nor does it make combining brains able to use them more.
We could just straight port their gloves to human use. [council] Be ready for your teammates to slice you and themselves apart accidentally.
This seems a lot like the overload bomb ideas.
1: Think there's any way we can harness the destructive energies of this alien god?
Open a localized tear in reality, let it slap stuff about a bit, use overwhelming force to close the tear.
Maybe use a nuke put inside a kinetic shunt for that energy, just for the cool-factor of it.
2: A fresh newborn (or maybe older, idk. Tiny kids are portable but a grown man would have more flesh) given the IVAN treatment and implanted with a bunch of brain-interface tech. Or just a bunch of vat-grown normal flesh with the IVAN treatment, if that's easily-controllable. IVANing a full body seems convenient because there's already a control system ready to hijack. It might be our replacement for synthflesh, no better way to test it than on a critical mission!
There sure are a lot of people around here who wanna stick their dick in the alien god. Getting the attention of the thing that is RIGHT NOW eating a solar system is probably a poor idea.
I'm not sure what you're going for here besides a war crime.
PW, crossposting NJW2000's submission for the new exo/uncon tinkering
Hey, can I annoy someone kind and obliging? I'm kinda finickety about my new replies box, and tbh Tinker would take up a lot of my time trying to understand the science, and I'd be tempted to look, and I'm trying to get on with schoolwork and all, so:
Would somebody mind crossposting, probably just this once, some random idea I had into the Tinker Thread? Pretty please? Just a quote?
PODIAL GALVANISER
A nutrient-filled tank connected to a computer, electrifiable wires or conductive microfilaments entering the tank.
The limbs and organs of nonhuman life forms of a relatively normal variety can be placed in the tank, damp end first, and allowed to extend out of it.
The wires can connect to the synapses and nerves of the limb and organs, firing them at varying rates. Various neurochemical dumps can also be placed in the tank.
These electrical impulses or chemical messages can be used to control the movement of the living matter, using it for whatever rending, grappling, slicing, spraying or climbing function it was originally intended for.
It comes with a selection of organs or limbs from the ARM stockpiles, but more interesting ones can be bought or collected in the field.
Just as a submission to the new exo weapon thing. And yes, I know this is anal and pointless of me.
Hmm, as much as I like the idea of someone lugging tank with a car battery and a giant alien battle penis sticking out of it onto the front lines of battle, I have severe doubts in how useful it will be.
Blueraditite EMP/ECM grenades.
Sharkmist self replenishing medkits.
Sharkmist melee weapons that produce acids/venoms.
Bluerad emp/ecm eh? Hmmm
We should look into sharkmist stuff for generating ammo and such.
Hmm. That could work. [council]
Of course, all these shark mist things would need to be fed.
ALRIGHT
We need more Exo and Uncon weapons ASAP so I'm giving Tinkerers a lot more free reign. Submit ideas, suggestions, finished submitting, anything. Straight up token payments to accepted ideas and royalties from purchases.
Ahaha oh my this is gonna go so bad. I love it already.
The world's a funny place when I regret things that haven't happened yet.
It's like a phantom pain but with the wrong causality.
HEY NIK, I assume we can officially suspend the 'need Hep approval' for tinker things now, right?
Ok, so let's do this bit by bit:
1) First, that blaster pistol upgrade, is that ok? I'll do non-deathtube exo/uncon things after this (and try to scrap ideas from the list that seem to have been mentioned before).
Ah, I forgot it depleted the battery. In that case you'd need more like an expanded heatsink or cooling system rather then just a casing or something, if you want it to be reusable. So either like some sort of fluid cooling system or a big metal chunk off of it to absorb the heat.
That sounds usable, yeah. Like in this picture:
But here that enormous mag on the front is actually a heatsink where the heat of an overcharge is shunted to (using liquid to carry heat off to the sink from the gun body). Does that work? If yes, would an infinite-use version be ok (which could cost more than 1 token), or would you rather stick with limited number of uses per 1 token block?
2) sharkmist. Could it be used to do any of the following?
-A treatment that fuses them with the body, like what happened to Milno
-An actual body made out of the stuff
-a big box with sharkmist that can take various shapes and forms or functionalities to do things
3) A riot shield made out of forcefield? Or a battlesuit sized one? Or straight up armor suit (maybe made from a lot of small pieces of field?)
4) An armor upgrade made from magic-eating pollen.
5) Those adaptable organic computers. Mix that with god-computer knowledge for fun and horrible effects (aka you say what you want to see done, then the organic computer reprograms itself while using the knowledge of the skylar god computer to make it happen).
6) The termite/glowworm gun. Something based off of that, perhaps allowing us to control the aliens for a change?
7) Remember what the doc did to old Xan, the shapeshifting? That, as a genemod.
Heabi sample. Could tie into number 7.
9) cerebrovore: genemod that lets one absorb the knowledge/skills of something by eating it/its brain. Scope of entities that can be affected up to you (can it absorb only human knowledge, anything with a similar brain structure, anything carbon based and intelligent, anything intelligent at all?)
10) that mustard gas that melted things. Would probably go into a gun or grenade of some sort though. Maybe as a chem thrower ammo type?
11) A whip that has one, or several, of the following:
-kinamp on the end
-ability to electrify the cord (with variable intensity)
-make it hollow so a bit of crystalline projector material is in it, after which a little is forced out of the tip when the whip cracks to deposit it and allow for a crystal to grow out
-make it so a little bit of high energy fuel or whatever is pushed out the end upon whipcrack, which then detonates (aka explosive whip)
12) a pope hat that interfaces with the brain of the user and allows wearer to sense all kinds of stuff (sensors are in the hat and feed dierectly to the brain so more and subtle fluctuations can be sensed). Could use sensors from earlier sensor package.
13) retractable forcefield claws
14) you know the 3D maneuvring gear from attack on Titan? That, but better (and allows user to pull things or people toward him, and maybe also can be used offensively like arbiter wires). And maybe the option to run electricity through it, why not.
((Can we only propose stuff that have some sort of in-game reason to exist, aka based on recovered artifacts, or should we just yell whatever we think of and let handwaving explain how we get it?))
1. Yeah thats fine
2. Difficult, but maybe.
Don't we already have that to a degree with Kri's emergency limbs? Expanding it wouldn't be hard. Unless you're talking about a body made of living, mutable sharkmist?
Uh huh. Sounds more like what the pimp cane was made for. Or the sand.
Thats not really a weapon. Nor is it exo or uncon. It's possible, but not what we're looking for now.
We could do that, and it would protect against space magic, but they're fairly fragile otherwise.
Hmm, maybe.
Glowworm gun we can create, but it's gonna be a con/exo combination weapon.
We want more Xans?
Haebi transforming weapons could work well. [council]
Hmmm...an interesting idea. Could work well...in before we have a murderer on board who finds a way to eat the brain of a few vets and become a supervet.
Hmm...containing it will be hard. Need to use forcefields. But possible.
Whip...kinamp at the end is begging for trouble, but the others seem viable.
Hmm maybe.
The claws might work.
Hmm. Humans probably couldn't use it due to spine breaking and such, but the idea isn't bad.
Tyrant's fist
A metal gauntlet that uses telerifle-based tech to allow the user to teleport small distances. Uses bluerad power cells which save on weight by ditching any radiation shielding, instead dropping the cell just before teleportation. This has the downside of irradiating the area the user leaves from. Teleporting into an occupied space may have serious side effects.
Cost ~15 Token. Requires Exo +2.
Interesting idea for a system but why put it in a fist?
Grenades that do the same stuff the Grav Shells do.
Thats possible. [council]
1. In mission 7 there was a robot wielding "a 5 foot long cudgel or blade, it's exact shape lost in the boiling white heat pouring off it." We could replicate that, we have all the files.
2. Renen's blade.
Superheated club? We can do that. [council]
Renen's blade is possible to duplicate but is very expensive. And using it is very hard.
Could forge a blade from coldspike provided it can hold an edge
We could do that, though it would need a special scabbard. Useful against warm flesh but not against much else.
Reposting, just in case.
Generator for standard, but capable of accepting blue radite cells: generator for doing the usual, blue rad if people want to buy it for extra flight time during emergencies or speed boosts.
And how about sharkmist systems that aren't implanted? Like a whip or any other similar tool/weapon made of sharkmist and maybe controlled with a mind impulse interface.
Also, could I get a Will stim as "research incentive" to see what I can glean from the alien power source?
Lets put off the flight pack for the moment. But for the record, you could probably get reasonable flight periods of a few minutes with a small generator.
Possible.
Sure.
((Given "downtime" on hiveworld I, I can TOTALLY SCRIBBLE PAPERS THAT COUNT AS TINKER))
Throwing ideas to the wall here. Exotic means physics breaking/organic/bodycontrolled/mindfuck right?
I like the idea of unchained sand. I want to be Gaara.
How about hivemind poison? Something like a contact/injected poison that places the victim under one's control much like a queen ant/bee. Maybe something like opposing mind rolls, and roll CHA for complex commands to see what gets through.
I suppose the pimpcane covers this, but what about psionic "bonded" spacemagic arrows like from Guardians of the Galaxy? Or would that also rely on Origin tech?
What about for UnCon, something FTL/scanhit? Or you could give us a Lesser Arbiter's Cudgel.
What about the Elemental infusers? Are those Origin enough to be a problem? Otherwise we could use those in interesting fashions. Like, instead of "infusing" something with fire, we turn a building (or any solid matter in a blast radius) into actual fire. Or ice. Or uranium, or flourine. No reason it has to be a "classical" element, right?
An "alchemist's stone" type of Exo weapon that allows you to rearrange atoms into other atoms, but requires mass to be conserved?
Instability genemenod?
What about Parasyte-style weapon implants? It's essentially organic crowdwire, mind-controlled.
Exo is hard.
Interesting idea. However, it needs a weapon system, not just the poison itself.
Never seen that movie, So I don't know. If they're just projectiles that are controlled by the mind then there are a few options, but pimp cane metal is probably best.
Not sure what you mean by FTL/scanhit. But the white hot cudgel is probably more realistic than the arbiter one in terms of price.
Elemental infusers don't use origin tech, but they are limited in the elements they infuse and how.
Possible I suppose.
Thats possible...sort of a limited free organic mutation system that allows you to have a particular part of your body go flesh horror. [Council]
I think thats enough for today. I'll look over the rest later. Try to hold your comments till I'm done with the current batch our we'll be here forever.
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