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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1245 on: July 24, 2015, 02:45:40 am »

Eh, amps kinda perturb me a bit - I'm observing Pancaek to see what side effects he accrues before I get them again.

Also if things go like I hope I won't need that particular amp.
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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1246 on: July 24, 2015, 02:50:15 am »

Eh, you just have to not do too much too fast. Same goes for everything. Including mad power grabbing/attaining schemes.

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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1247 on: July 24, 2015, 02:51:40 am »

True that. Don't worry, my multiple stints of death have taught me patience.
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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1248 on: July 24, 2015, 04:54:40 am »

In that case it might be quicker to just "print" specialized flesh knitter directly, unless there's an organ that requires scaffolding to be ”sculpted". Which would probably make it more expensive, since you'd need multiple cans of flesh knitter.

The reason I'm trying to tinker it like this is because it represents an upgrade to flesh knitter, it represents a natural progression for medics: medic gets emergency kit -> medic gets advanced kit -> (here should be a branch representing choice between flesh knitter tank and surgery kit) -> (organ printer for flesh knitter branch, more limbs for surgery kit branch)

Of course, nothing beats the combo of medic+exo+organo-dominator amp+can of fleshknitter for extra easy to process flesh. You should get that if you're ever allowed to get amps again.

I think that's where Ryan's planning on going :P

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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1249 on: July 30, 2015, 08:22:47 pm »

I mean, one'd need to accelerate the rods to immense speeds to use them for carpet bombing, no? Needing enormous accelerators and/or spess mahics? Or am I missing something here?


I think the idea with tungsten rods is that you release them from orbit and gravity accelerates them to a high speed. Due to their high mass and speed they don't need any explosives either. Though, the planet would have to have sufficient gravity, so it might not work on asteroids unless the ship is already moving itself. At least, this is how they claim that they would work on Earth.
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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1250 on: July 30, 2015, 09:39:11 pm »

Welp I have came up with instant tea pill. a compact way to store tea, so long as you don't eat it. we can also weapon ising it by air dropping it air dropping it in bottles of Viagra with hookers!
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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1251 on: July 31, 2015, 10:02:59 am »

I mean, one'd need to accelerate the rods to immense speeds to use them for carpet bombing, no? Needing enormous accelerators and/or spess mahics? Or am I missing something here?


I think the idea with tungsten rods is that you release them from orbit and gravity accelerates them to a high speed. Due to their high mass and speed they don't need any explosives either. Though, the planet would have to have sufficient gravity, so it might not work on asteroids unless the ship is already moving itself. At least, this is how they claim that they would work on Earth.

I dunno if they'd be worth it when used like that. I mean, it's a High-altitude gunship, not an orbital warship, and normally would still operate inside the  atmosphere. Longer range is possible, but then you loose accuracy, and the main use for this is precise artillery support, not indiscriminate bombardment, though when that is needed I think a complement of nukes should do the trick very well in a pinch. But if the main goal is glassing a site, then an orbital warship using a big rail/coilgun seems better.

From this video: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/reel-physics/7296-GI-Joe-Retaliation-Tungsten-Rod-Drop
A tungsten rod of 8500 kg going 8700 m/s from an altitude of 800 km gives 32800 mJ, or 78 ton (0.78 kiloton) TNT equivalent.
If we assume a gunship is flying at, say, 100 km (a Lockheed AC-130 gunship has a service ceiling of about 9 km, by the way, and 100 km is the Kármán line on earth, aka upper limit of the atmosphere), and that it wouldn't be using rods of 8.5 ton a piece (that lockheed gunship only weighs about 55 ton itself), these rods would have substantially less energy. I could do a quick calculation, but you get the idea.

In the armory you can buy a 1 kiltoton nuke for just 7 tokens. The bomb on Hiroshima was 12-15 kilotons. So really, when not using very big coilguns to actually accelerate your ammo to high speeds (which would cost a lot and probably be big and heavy, an issue for ships in atmosphere), just using nukes is much more efficient (a nuke is a lot of power in a relatively small package).
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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1252 on: July 31, 2015, 12:47:50 pm »

Some questions about the limits of the black halo. No need to answer all of the below if you don't have time.
1. How much can it change your appearance? Can it make you look like an alien that has eight legs?
2. Can it change your appearance to someone whose existence you know, but whose exact appearance you don't know? For example, can you think "make me look like those trooper's commanding officer" even though you've never seen said commanding officer?
3. Does it also affect other senses? Would it, for example, affect how your voice sounds or how you smell or how your clothes feel?
4. How much does it confuse senses? If I disguise myself into someone that has only one arm and someone tries to touch my arm stump, will they think they are touching my arm stump or will the illusion break?
5. Can you give me a rough estimate of the distance it can affect other people's minds? Will it affect a security guard watching a video feed of me while he's standing behind the armoured door I'm trying to get him to open, for example? How about a sod trying to snipe me?
6. Can it only affect people viewing me in real-time or can I affect a recording of me wearing the halo if I'm nearby?
7. Can I project different illusions to different people?
8. Can it make you look like an inanimate object? Like a water cooler?
9. How large or small can it make you look like? Rough estimate, no need for exact numbers.
10. Can it alter how you perceive yourself or at least let you know what others are seeing?
11. Can it be used to alter what equipment others think you have, so that you can use it to make someone think you're holding a valid ID or a police badge?


Asking to see if it's worth giving my Exo backup character some charisma. Such thoughts always come to mind when Flint lands in the next deathtrap.
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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1253 on: August 01, 2015, 09:56:39 am »

how are gauss rifles powered?
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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1254 on: August 01, 2015, 10:15:30 am »

I believe they are powered by an in-built generator.
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« Reply #1255 on: August 01, 2015, 10:29:48 am »

Could you modify a gauss rifle to have a mold for bullets and then use it in conjunction with a built in a microwave field manipulator. to produce a rifle that use anything metallic as ammo by melting it down? If the gauss rifle you modified had the sniper conversion kit and you over charged the magnetics it seems like you would have a decent rifle for any one willing to hang back and pick there shots.
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« Reply #1256 on: August 01, 2015, 11:18:45 am »

You probably could do that with an automanip but it would  increase cost a fair amount too. Unless you want to lug around a full size brain and do the molding yourself with the microwave manip.
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Re: TINKER: Miya's Hubris
« Reply #1257 on: August 01, 2015, 11:45:00 am »

what is an automanip?
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« Reply #1258 on: August 01, 2015, 12:04:51 pm »

Automated manipulator. Does only one preset thing, and usually has a limited number of uses. Can be made to have infinite uses, but that's roughly the size of a car and expensive
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« Reply #1259 on: August 01, 2015, 12:30:31 pm »

That sounds perfect. All I need it to do is melt a small pile of metal. Where do I get one.
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