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[piecewise]

I haven't really been paying much attention here because this seems to have become some sort of tinker OOC or similar brain storming area. Was there anyone with actions that needed handling?

[Radio Controlled]

I haven't really been paying much attention here because this seems to have become some sort of tinker OOC or similar brain storming area. Was there anyone with actions that needed handling?

Is that an invitation? Or a challenge?

[spazyak]

could someone create what is basically a tank with fluid similar to embryonic fluid and pump it full of a person's stem cells to allow them to better recover from grievous injuries such as an arm through the head?

[Radio Controlled]

could someone create what is basically a tank with fluid similar to embryonic fluid and pump it full of a person's stem cells to allow them to better recover from grievous injuries such as an arm through the head?

Medicine/biology don't work that way I'm afraid.

[spazyak]

could someone create what is basically a tank with fluid similar to embryonic fluid and pump it full of a person's stem cells to allow them to better recover from grievous injuries such as an arm through the head?

Medicine/biology don't work that way I'm afraid.

aww would there be any way to try and get it to work in a similar fashion to this to regenerate lost limbs and such

[Parisbre56]

There is flshknitter that can regrow all tissues but not with the right structure. So it works for flesh and muscle, but not things that are more complex like hearts.

Then there is Kriellya's new synthetic replacements that can be used to replace organs and limbs on the field (provided you have an environment where you can perform surgery).

And finally there is the specialized healing fluid pods used in the infirmary. It is similar to fleshknitter, but acts in a controlled manner and can even regrow entire bodies. However, it is very hard to use, making it very likely for you to end up with a tumor if you try to use it. Plus, it's not instantaneous, it takes some time to regrow something. As such, it will probably be best if someone made a specialized battlesuit or APC with a tank of that fluid+the necessary equipment to use it that can be used by people with high Med and/or Aux so that limbs and organs can be regrown in the field. However, it might be much more efficient and quick (if not as cheap) to simply replace said organs with synthetics or simply remove the brain and place it in a robobody/braincase.

[spazyak]

There is flshknitter that can regrow all tissues but not with the right structure. So it works for flesh and muscle, but not things that are more complex like hearts.

Then there is Kriellya's new synthetic replacements that can be used to replace organs and limbs on the field (provided you have an environment where you can perform surgery).

And finally there is the specialized healing fluid pods used in the infirmary. It is similar to fleshknitter, but acts in a controlled manner and can even regrow entire bodies. However, it is very hard to use, making it very likely for you to end up with a tumor if you try to use it. Plus, it's not instantaneous, it takes some time to regrow something. As such, it will probably be best if someone made a specialized battlesuit or APC with a tank of that fluid+the necessary equipment to use it that can be used by people with high Med and/or Aux so that limbs and organs can be regrown in the field. However, it might be much more efficient and quick (if not as cheap) to simply replace said organs with synthetics or simply remove the brain and place it in a robobody/braincase.

so could you replace part of the brain with a computer, destroying any memories and such but leaving the person with a working brain and it would be upgradeable.

[Parisbre56]

There are ways to replace your brain with mechanical parts by replacing it neuron by neuron (if I remember correctly) but there's little benefit and large risk involved.

Making yourself into an AI is probably impossible. You could train an AI to act like you (maybe, if you're really really lucky) but it probably wouldn't be you.

Mechanical augmentations to your brain are possible, but it tends to be dangerous. There's an upgrade for example that lets Steve control your body, but it tends to slowly fry your brain whenever used.

In short, it's either dangerous, expensive or both.

Unless you want something else? What exactly do you mean by "upgrades"?

[spazyak]

There are ways to replace your brain with mechanical parts by replacing it neuron by neuron (if I remember correctly) but there's little benefit and large risk involved.

Making yourself into an AI is probably impossible. You could train an AI to act like you (maybe, if you're really really lucky) but it probably wouldn't be you.

Mechanical augmentations to your brain are possible, but it tends to be dangerous. There's an upgrade for example that lets Steve control your body, but it tends to slowly fry your brain whenever used.

In short, it's either dangerous, expensive or both.

Unless you want something else? What exactly do you mean by "upgrades"?

simply pump the flesh knitter into the brain them put it on what is essentially a Frankenstein body so that you have a barely sentient body guard that works for you/my future char that may steal it.

[Nunzillor]

Not sure if this makes sense, but what about a burnout mode for manipulators?  Similar to burnout amps, but toggleable with a switch (instead of permanent) for emergency situations when you need extra juice quickly despite the risk of extra brain damage.

I guess this would only really be useful if switching to better brains requires a turn, whereas using the switch would be nearly instantaneous and could be coupled with an action.

[Nikitian]

@Piecewise Having the once-glorious Tinker devolve into mere OOC discussion with all actual Tinkering done off-forum makes me sad and archaic, but it's not something that can be helped, is it?
Maybe we could have people who have Tinkered with you in IRC or something post all the logs of such discussion here? That way, we could still bask in what little glory remains to this dangerous yet addictive behavior.
Otherwise, I must congratulate you. Were it by your design or not, you were able to crush the impertinent spirit of Tinkering and hide away what little remains of it. As the original Tinker addict, I salute you on this accomplishment!



@AI brain transformation Actually, there is a way (well, was, up to recently) - one could get that genemod that gives +1 to Aux (not safe and sorry 'enhanced capacity' of modern times, but full-dangerous genemods of foregone era), as it would make your brain fully computer-compatible but force computer-like thinking on you. Basically, closest you can get to becoming a wetware AI without dying and being rebuilt. Not sure if you can still get those genemods without the Doctor on board.

[spazyak]

@Piecewise Having the once-glorious Tinker devolve into mere OOC discussion with all actual Tinkering done off-forum makes me sad and archaic, but it's not something that can be helped, is it?
Maybe we could have people who have Tinkered with you in IRC or something post all the logs of such discussion here? That way, we could still bask in what little glory remains to this dangerous yet addictive behavior.
Otherwise, I must congratulate you. Were it by your design or not, you were able to crush the impertinent spirit of Tinkering and hide away what little remains of it. As the original Tinker addict, I salute you on this accomplishment!



@AI brain transformation Actually, there is a way (well, was, up to recently) - one could get that genemod that gives +1 to Aux (not safe and sorry 'enhanced capacity' of modern times, but full-dangerous genemods of foregone era), as it would make your brain fully computer-compatible but force computer-like thinking on you. Basically, closest you can get to becoming a wetware AI without dying and being rebuilt. Not sure if you can still get those genemods without the Doctor on board.

well zoltan's body is currently being held in stasis till it get's there so it can last for a long time. but let's do it! lets flash knit then add those gene mods and program him to work for us and make it a flesh golem body guard!

[Radio Controlled]

Hey pw, now that manips changed and only need the human brain in order to function, does that mean we can now give manips to sods or robots to use? If not, why not?

This.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

I still like the idea of having quick use 'burnout' amps, remember that cultist mission? Steve talked about those kind of amps, they were basically better, easier to use and had more straight up power, but they destroyed your brain every time you used them, regardless of how amp stressed you were, I asked PW about having burnout Manips, and he said it would be fine, too.

Man there should really be a word for Amp stress, Ampout? Ampburn? Ampdrit?

[Radio Controlled]

You're getting Amped?