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[piecewise]

But... what about Mainspring?
Or that one exploration game that we played in Limbo.

I'm with Oz, I prefer a bit of Grimbright to the old standard Grimdark.

agreed. If I wanted grim derp of grim derpiness, I would play a warhammer 40k rpg.

Is it grimdark if victory is possible?

[Empiricist]

Probably not. If we're going by /tg/ standards, then I think the "grim" part of "grimdark" comes from individual actions being near meaningless and victories ultimately insignificant to the state of the world as a whole. So, neutraldark or nobledark.

[kj1225]

The fuck is nuetraldark and nobledark? Back in my day we called those things being gritty or having a world half full.

[Empiricist]

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[piecewise]

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Sounds like nobledark to me.

But...I dunno, I think a big part of grimdark is the way it's presented. The levity of the characters and the presentation can make even bleak settings fun.

ER is nothing if not Gallows Humor half the time.

[MidnightJaguar]

So PW, how do you envision Oro working in regards to everyone who's not on mission. What would we be doing in our down time?

[piecewise]

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So PW, how do you envision Oro working in regards to everyone who's not on mission. What would we be doing in our down time?

I'm really not sure.

[MidnightJaguar]

I know that Ozrazk offered to act as like a co-GM for everyone who's not on mission.Do you think that would work? No idea if he's still willing to do that just offering the idea of maybe appointing some apprentice GM's to help.

[Devastator]

Someone reminded me of Doomguy on IRC.  Now that would have been a worthy character.

[Parisbre56]

Someone should change the link in the wiki to the new character creator I made a while ago. I think it's easier to use. I must have forgotten to do it at the time.

http://parisbre56-phpexperiment.rhcloud.com/new_character.html

[Comrade P.]

Someone should change the link in the wiki to the new character creator I made a while ago. I think it's easier to use. I must have forgotten to do it at the time.

http://parisbre56-phpexperiment.rhcloud.com/new_character.html

On it.

[Yoink]

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This whole chart is moronic.
Since when has there been more than just "grimdark", anyway? Have there always been these weird other categories, or did people decide to invent them recently? The term grimdark is silly enough, we don't need a similar one to describe every piece of fiction ever.

[Empiricist]

I honestly have no idea. It's utterly pointlessly named and overly granular for what just amounts to Player Influence versus General Bleakness.

[spazyak]

New one doesn't work on androids.

[TheBiggerFish]

New one doesn't work on androids.

I can see it just fine, do the calcs not work or something?