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[Nikitian]

For the record, I PM'd him immediately, just to get things to proceed smoother. (And then later got a reply to an unrelated earlier PM.) So I guess he either missed it, hadn't had time yet, or decided to let the storm brew a bit.

You're welcome to PM him again. I just don't want to spam him since I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt for now.


Also, I think the Altered are (by large part) unaffected by the Lurker presence. I believe Piecewise said something like this or something, but I might be mistaken; still, he didn't mention IVAN-treatment getting more hazardous when talking about affected things in the Armory, and Steve didn't say anything on the matter when he addressed the Altered slowing down the Lurker.

Maybe it's because they're, just like humans, are a bit remote offshot from the Origin. (More remote than the amps/manips, at least.)

[Kedly]

I sent a pm a while ago

[Caellath]

Someone said Milno's opinion is "Xenos BAD", which isn't entirely true. He's been dealing with the alien power source, after all, though carefully. Incidentally, that's a good way to show how he thinks such things should be handled: he's talked to the power source but has done so with a good measure of care. Trying to make oneself into a god is a much trickier issue.

OOC the power grab was an interesting move. Too bad it'll delay things even more now.

[Dorsidwarf]

Someone said Milno's opinion is "Xenos BAD", which isn't entirely true. He's been dealing with the alien power source, after all, though carefully. Incidentally, that's a good way to show how he thinks such things should be handled: he's talked to the power source but has done so with a good measure of care. Trying to make oneself into a god is a much trickier issue.

OOC the power grab was an interesting move. Too bad it'll delay things even more now.

wait, you spoke with the power core of the alien colony you murdered?

[Corsair]

Can a wikiGnome put me with Vet team Firestorm please [Konrad Curtz].

[Caellath]

wait, you spoke with the power core of the alien colony you murdered?

Yep, I did. It's more of a telepathy thing, and it's quite a reasonable power core when you take the necessary precautions to talk to it before it turns your brain into mush.

[Gentlefish]

wait, you spoke with the power core of the alien colony you murdered?

Yep, I did. It's more of a telepathy thing, and it's quite a reasonable power core when you take the necessary precautions to talk to it before it turns your brain into mush.

...will these ever be declassified?

[Caellath]

Oh, sure. The chat was actually a short, funny dance of truths, half-truths and omissions. I intended to post them as soon as the talk ended but since I and pw messed things up - as you will notice by the timestamps - I forgot to do so. The lurker thing does shake things all over again since the UWM is basically defeated so the next talk Milno has with the power source will have a different tone, one that I still haven't decided on.

Here it is, without all the poking and OOC of the actual conversation.

Spoiler: Power Source Talk (click to show/hide)

Milno adjusts the mechanist gauntlet, takes a deep breath and crunches a willpower battle stim before poking the alien power source he's had for a while. He then tries his best to communicate with it, unsure whether the gauntlet is even necessary but deciding something that may act as a buffer is better than risking having his brain blown away. Hello. I've felt you hate me, but before you start trying to murder me already I'd like to inform you that was I was only following orders and had no idea of my actions' consequences.

The result of your first attempt at communication is...well the thing can't speak in words you understand but you get an intense feeling of killing intent.

Like I said, it was not my fault. Could you show me a sign you're at least listening to me instead of wishing for my death? I hope the ideas and feelings are transmitting well, since I have no idea you can understand me. I don't know how the people whose building you were guarding worked, but did you have a concept of "boss" and "employee"? Well, I was like that - someone gives me orders, I obey - except I could be shocked to death by my boss. I was tossed with a bunch of other stupid people onto that planet and told to take all things that looked shiny and valuable - and that included you. Yes, I'm actually sorry after all that is over since I wouldn't like if it had been me. No, we had no idea we were murdering an entire species when that happened, and the worst part is that I think my boss wouldn't have cared. You see, we were acting under the orders of the United Worlds of Man, which is an organization keeping a stranglehold on our species. Do you get it? Dictatorship, giant government ordering people around? We were kind of slaves to them.

The power source seems...well, still quite angry but slightly less angry at you in particular.

Now, the organization that controlled me and the group of people who intruded in the building you were held is a tyrannic thing, of course. I continued trying to survive through several missions and I lived long enough to see this rebellion rise. We are now a force opposed to the UWM, the group that controlled this ship and many others. That means now I fight the same people who had me yank you out of that place. I'm not sure if you can tell I'm saying the truth since it's a mind link, but I hope you can. We are now going against them, and I'm talking to you because while I don't expect you to forgive me and become my friend or anything hopeful like that, I do believe you could at least help me and my pals fight the UWM. I will be direct: I am asking you to lend me your power so I can continue trying to destroy those assholes. If we can have at least a working relationship, then that'd be enough for me. Milno was being sincere since, well. What was he going to do otherwise?

Now, do you have anything I could do for you that doesn't end in my death? Can you communicate better if I move closer? I could do that if you don't just try to fry my brain.

The alien source doesn't seem to know how to handle all this exposition.

Milno gave the power source a few minutes to digest the information before trying to communicate with it once again. So, what do you think? Could you hate me less and help me? Perfect opportunity for some justice against those who caused that disaster. Or vengeance, however you want to call it.

The source seems...cautious. It seems to be considering what you said but still doesn't trust you very much.

Milno shrugged. Well, can't say much more. Guess I can give you some time to think things over.

I'll wait until you make up your mind or want me to explain anything. One mental ping to leave you alone for a couple of hours, two to explain something you want explained.

One ping.

In the future you think you should use some other way to interact because these "pings" are causing your brain to throb.

Got you. And we'll find another way to communicate later, this 'ping' thing doesn't seem to work too nicely. And with that, Milno left the power source to do its thinking.

[MidnightJaguar]

Oh, sure. The chat was actually a short, funny dance of truths, half-truths and omissions. I intended to post them as soon as the talk ended but since I and pw messed things up - as you will notice by the timestamps - I forgot to do so. The lurker thing does shake things all over again since the UWM is basically defeated so the next talk Milno has with the power source will have a different tone, one that I still haven't decided on.

Here it is, without all the poking and OOC of the actual conversation.

Spoiler: Power Source Talk (click to show/hide)

Milno adjusts the mechanist gauntlet, takes a deep breath and crunches a willpower battle stim before poking the alien power source he's had for a while. He then tries his best to communicate with it, unsure whether the gauntlet is even necessary but deciding something that may act as a buffer is better than risking having his brain blown away. Hello. I've felt you hate me, but before you start trying to murder me already I'd like to inform you that was I was only following orders and had no idea of my actions' consequences.

The result of your first attempt at communication is...well the thing can't speak in words you understand but you get an intense feeling of killing intent.

Like I said, it was not my fault. Could you show me a sign you're at least listening to me instead of wishing for my death? I hope the ideas and feelings are transmitting well, since I have no idea you can understand me. I don't know how the people whose building you were guarding worked, but did you have a concept of "boss" and "employee"? Well, I was like that - someone gives me orders, I obey - except I could be shocked to death by my boss. I was tossed with a bunch of other stupid people onto that planet and told to take all things that looked shiny and valuable - and that included you. Yes, I'm actually sorry after all that is over since I wouldn't like if it had been me. No, we had no idea we were murdering an entire species when that happened, and the worst part is that I think my boss wouldn't have cared. You see, we were acting under the orders of the United Worlds of Man, which is an organization keeping a stranglehold on our species. Do you get it? Dictatorship, giant government ordering people around? We were kind of slaves to them.

The power source seems...well, still quite angry but slightly less angry at you in particular.

Now, the organization that controlled me and the group of people who intruded in the building you were held is a tyrannic thing, of course. I continued trying to survive through several missions and I lived long enough to see this rebellion rise. We are now a force opposed to the UWM, the group that controlled this ship and many others. That means now I fight the same people who had me yank you out of that place. I'm not sure if you can tell I'm saying the truth since it's a mind link, but I hope you can. We are now going against them, and I'm talking to you because while I don't expect you to forgive me and become my friend or anything hopeful like that, I do believe you could at least help me and my pals fight the UWM. I will be direct: I am asking you to lend me your power so I can continue trying to destroy those assholes. If we can have at least a working relationship, then that'd be enough for me. Milno was being sincere since, well. What was he going to do otherwise?

Now, do you have anything I could do for you that doesn't end in my death? Can you communicate better if I move closer? I could do that if you don't just try to fry my brain.

The alien source doesn't seem to know how to handle all this exposition.

Milno gave the power source a few minutes to digest the information before trying to communicate with it once again. So, what do you think? Could you hate me less and help me? Perfect opportunity for some justice against those who caused that disaster. Or vengeance, however you want to call it.

The source seems...cautious. It seems to be considering what you said but still doesn't trust you very much.

Milno shrugged. Well, can't say much more. Guess I can give you some time to think things over.

I'll wait until you make up your mind or want me to explain anything. One mental ping to leave you alone for a couple of hours, two to explain something you want explained.

One ping.

In the future you think you should use some other way to interact because these "pings" are causing your brain to throb.

Got you. And we'll find another way to communicate later, this 'ping' thing doesn't seem to work too nicely. And with that, Milno left the power source to do its thinking.

So my plan for Trier, assuming whatever it was that was in that syringe doesn't end up killing him, was to try to resurrect some crystal people using the crystalline projector. If he ever gets that working, would Milno mind Trier borrowing the power source to test its effects on the crystal people?

[Caellath]

Talk to Milno later, I believe we could strike a deal with the source.

[MidnightJaguar]

Alright then.

[Devastator]

Maurice is being an ass for recieving a slap-on-the-wrist punishment, ignoring it, and declaring himself the occupier of a position of power that grants him authority over others.  Threatening people with horrifying death if they don't do what you like is more abusive than anything the generals have done.

Doubly so for claiming that he follows Steve, but that doesn't extend to acknowleging those Steve gave power to is absurd and illogical.

And for the love of god people, this is why you have bailiffs.  Why the hell didn't you search the prisoner before the trial began?

[Parisbre56]

Hehehe. You're so funny when you're so... non-subtle.

[Devastator]

Inventing his own oaths of office was a nice touch, but only reinforces the idea that he's nuttier than a batch of fruitcakes.

[Xantalos]

You do have to grant that it's gonna be intensely amusing when Steve most likely goes 'yeah no I agree with my generals' and then someone shoots him when he accidentally makes a "threatening" move. Happens all the time with police IRL.