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Author Topic: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO  (Read 2541922 times)

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15810 on: April 13, 2015, 01:45:50 pm »

All stats should be Aux because we're using computers to post actions!
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15811 on: April 13, 2015, 01:48:53 pm »

Remove all stats except Fate, because RNGesus decides all things and we must pay tribute!
Nah, just use charisma to charm RNGesus
I am clearly disappointed with you, sirs. We are honestly striving here to balance ER system just right, while you're trying to laugh off our effort. Shame on you!

Now, at least Lenglon provides useful input for the proposed system changes. So, how about mixing in Aux and Exo? Both are about controlling things with the efforts of your mind; playing the proverbial puppet master, one could even say.
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should... should I take that seriously?
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using human tech, especially computers and computer interfaces, is typically not actually about controlling things with your mind. it's about vocabulary and visualization of artificial systems. a computer-savy person generally is experienced in the comon uses of terms and computer-specific language, and has a general understanding of the quirks of most computerized systems and how to locate and understand help guides and instruction manuals on the topics that they don't. for example if a non-computer-savy person wants to tell a program to do something, they are going to avoid the "execute" button like the plague, because they don't want to lose all their work. whereas someone who knows what "execute" means in a computer-specific context would go for it almost immediately.

exo on the other hand, is more about mental flexibility. the ability to accept new inputs and outputs added to the user's mind. to consciously and unconsciously control them and create the desired result.

in other words, aux is more about active, conscious control, and exo is about intuitive, unconscious control.
All stats should be Aux because we're using computers to post actions!
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15812 on: April 13, 2015, 01:52:26 pm »

We should go full minimalist. No stats or skills, just a d6 roll for everything.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15813 on: April 13, 2015, 01:56:19 pm »

We should go full minimalist. No stats or skills, just a d6 roll for everything.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15814 on: April 13, 2015, 02:05:20 pm »

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using human tech, especially computers and computer interfaces, is typically not actually about controlling things with your mind. it's about vocabulary and visualization of artificial systems. a computer-savy person generally is experienced in the comon uses of terms and computer-specific language, and has a general understanding of the quirks of most computerized systems and how to locate and understand help guides and instruction manuals on the topics that they don't. for example if a non-computer-savy person wants to tell a program to do something, they are going to avoid the "execute" button like the plague, because they don't want to lose all their work. whereas someone who knows what "execute" means in a computer-specific context would go for it almost immediately.

exo on the other hand, is more about mental flexibility. the ability to accept new inputs and outputs added to the user's mind. to consciously and unconsciously control them and create the desired result.

in other words, aux is more about active, conscious control, and exo is about intuitive, unconscious control.
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Well, I see your point very well. Still, in the end they both answer to controlling things with mind, either consciously or not? And with Will and Int (as sort of mental Str/End and Dex) incorporated into Mind, it can be just as well used to control both Exo and Aux. Perhaps it's time to do away with the arbitrary distinction of stats and skills on the whole? We could get rid of a whole number of dump stats and skills that way.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15815 on: April 13, 2015, 02:10:38 pm »

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should... should I take that seriously?
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using human tech, especially computers and computer interfaces, is typically not actually about controlling things with your mind. it's about vocabulary and visualization of artificial systems. a computer-savy person generally is experienced in the comon uses of terms and computer-specific language, and has a general understanding of the quirks of most computerized systems and how to locate and understand help guides and instruction manuals on the topics that they don't. for example if a non-computer-savy person wants to tell a program to do something, they are going to avoid the "execute" button like the plague, because they don't want to lose all their work. whereas someone who knows what "execute" means in a computer-specific context would go for it almost immediately.

exo on the other hand, is more about mental flexibility. the ability to accept new inputs and outputs added to the user's mind. to consciously and unconsciously control them and create the desired result.

in other words, aux is more about active, conscious control, and exo is about intuitive, unconscious control.
((Hey, I just wanted to support you against the meanies! Meanies are not cool!))

Well, I see your point very well. Still, in the end they both answer to controlling things with mind, either consciously or not? And with Will and Int (as sort of mental Str/End and Dex) incorporated into Mind, it can be just as well used to control both Exo and Aux. Perhaps it's time to do away with the arbitrary distinction of stats and skills on the whole? We could get rid of a whole number of dump stats and skills that way.
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division of skills and stats means more detailed characterization and differences between characters. more stats/skills to spread points between > less.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15816 on: April 13, 2015, 02:12:36 pm »

Did - did newbie just see grate?

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15817 on: April 13, 2015, 02:20:19 pm »

What would the Grate symbolism mean? I just know he was immortal or somesuch.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15818 on: April 13, 2015, 02:22:26 pm »

@Caellath Which plan again? My memory seems to be a little fuzzy. The one where we all enter through use of the hull opener?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15819 on: April 13, 2015, 02:28:10 pm »

What would the Grate symbolism mean? I just know he was immortal or somesuch.

OOC, we know he was spared to deliver a message.  Beyond that, we don't know.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15820 on: April 13, 2015, 02:31:55 pm »

And his message will sound something like this: https://youtu.be/aB39OqlJsm4

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15821 on: April 13, 2015, 02:32:32 pm »

Say, who is going to be left on ship once the missions start?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15822 on: April 13, 2015, 02:35:42 pm »

I'll be around, trying to fix myself. Maybe tinkering with the Deathcube.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15823 on: April 13, 2015, 02:36:15 pm »

@Caellath Which plan again? My memory seems to be a little fuzzy. The one where we all enter through use of the hull opener?

Yeah, everyone enters via hull opener in the hallway that takes to the main computer. Holdout team goes first and blocks the hallway with goop while Computer Grab team heads for the main computer. It keeps the two groups able to easily support one another and also lessens the chance of the hull opening procedure causing any damage to the computer.

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC
« Reply #15824 on: April 13, 2015, 02:50:35 pm »

What would the Grate symbolism mean? I just know he was immortal or somesuch.
Well, it might be Grate.
It might be someone else in which case...
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