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Author Topic: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO  (Read 2491728 times)

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3630 on: May 10, 2014, 12:12:48 am »

Oh PW, is there a universal amp in the style of the universal manip?
Similarly, is there a matter converter manip?
yes

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3631 on: May 10, 2014, 12:13:09 am »

((I'd like to know what that big gun just shot, that implies it can clear multiple capital ships.))

It might not, there might only be one serious threat left, and all the other ships are dead, dying, or practically guaranteed to die next round.

Well, Jacks leaving anyway. Along with any surviving crew. He is also going to drag the rear of the team even if they don't want to leave.

You may not need to go anywhere. Ship Beta, at least, has its cockpit configured as an escape pod.
You want the short answer or the long one?

I am always a big fan of long answers, but if you don't have time a short one will do :P
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3632 on: May 10, 2014, 12:15:54 am »

Yay, my plan to become incredibly versatile OPman is still good!
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3633 on: May 10, 2014, 12:17:34 am »

How much does this universal amp cost?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3634 on: May 10, 2014, 01:01:10 am »

It would be amusing if the manipulator overloading inside the ship was an universal one and we were granted the dubious honor of expectating the birth of an Event Horizon-like ship.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3635 on: May 10, 2014, 08:55:44 am »

Oh PW, is there a universal amp in the style of the universal manip?
Similarly, is there a matter converter manip?
yes

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A 'yes' to two questions always makes me suspicious.  But I already knew that the answer to both is yes, so meh.

We're still not sure if the universal amp is something a normal human can use.  The AM has one, but she's the AM.  And amp specialists have them, but, well, amp specialists.

Not that I don't think they exist for regular people.  Just offering the opposition.

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3636 on: May 10, 2014, 12:08:20 pm »

It could just not be on the list.  Some stuff that is available is not on the list for a reason, but there's some perfectly usable gear (see: Civic Defender Longcoat) that isn't on the list.



Also, in regards to the VR dueling, Grate is also a 12 year old kid; might be a bit easier to wrestle him.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3637 on: May 10, 2014, 12:11:55 pm »

I'm hoping the entire ship gets crushed into a black hole. And then nothing interesting happens, because really, black holes are not that scary. :P
Unless the ship has a planetary or ideally stellar mass, it's going to start emitting a lot of radiation if it turns into a black hole.
If it wasn't for Hawking radiation, it might help clear the surrounding area of garbage, or maybe it could be used as a gravitational lens...but other than that, yeah, not much. (Black holes are a lot scarier when they're bigger or closer to you.)
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3638 on: May 10, 2014, 08:41:11 pm »

Not really, GWG. Black holes still act normally with regards to gravity, so even really massive ones aren't all that scary. Proximity can be a bit scarier, I suppose - I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a black hole's Roche limit (actually, I wouldn't want to be near ANY Roche limit, but a black hole's has a much more dramatic effect...), and relativistic effects wouldn't be terribly fun either.

But yeah, apart from the fact that the manipulator might defy physics to the contrary, a black hole from a ship's mass would be extremely hot and would likely completely evaporate fairly quickly.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3639 on: May 10, 2014, 08:49:18 pm »

I just realised Flint failed to save anybody or be useful again. He did a perfect job being non-lethal and thought he did good for a moment but that was only for him to feel even more miserable later. Well played RNG.

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3640 on: May 10, 2014, 09:36:41 pm »

Not really, GWG. Black holes still act normally with regards to gravity, so even really massive ones aren't all that scary.
Their area of scariness is bigger.

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But yeah, apart from the fact that the manipulator might defy physics to the contrary, a black hole from a ship's mass would be extremely hot and would likely completely evaporate fairly quickly.
I don't remember what all Hawking radiation is (particles and their anti-versions, I think), but that has the potential to be scary. Imagine being bombarded with a shower of particles that's roughly 50% antimatter...
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3641 on: May 10, 2014, 10:06:10 pm »

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But yeah, apart from the fact that the manipulator might defy physics to the contrary, a black hole from a ship's mass would be extremely hot and would likely completely evaporate fairly quickly.
Im confused, how does a black hole evaporate?

I mean i understand that the black hole condensing all the nearby light and radiation on itself would cause it to heat up by an insane degree, but wouldnt the sheer magnitude of its gravitational pull prevent the evaporating material from escaping?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3642 on: May 10, 2014, 10:10:38 pm »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation


Extremely basically, matter/antimatter particle pairs come into existence all the time, then quickly destroy each other.  Near a black hole, sometimes one of the two falls into the event horizon while the other escapes.  This translates into energy lost by the black hole, which is often described as evaporation.


I'm sure one of the more sciencey types will come by and point out errors, but that's the nutshell answer.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3643 on: May 10, 2014, 10:16:29 pm »

As a pretty sciencey type, that's about as accurate as you're going to get without delving into quantum mechanics, which will fascinate a few of us and bore the rest.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #3644 on: May 10, 2014, 10:43:59 pm »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation


Extremely basically, matter/antimatter particle pairs come into existence all the time, then quickly destroy each other.  Near a black hole, sometimes one of the two falls into the event horizon while the other escapes.  This translates into energy lost by the black hole, which is often described as evaporation.


I'm sure one of the more sciencey types will come by and point out errors, but that's the nutshell answer.

Like GWG said - without diving into quantum mechanics, that's about the best you'll get.

Also, it's just really come to mind while I was perusing the article that small black holes would make really good 'explosives' (in terms of size, not mass). A hole with a mass of 2.28 × 10^5 kg would evaporate in 1 second, releasing total energy of 5 × 10^6 megatons.

We have manipulators that should be capable of creating black holes, and possibly 'containing' them (stopping them from emitting Hawking radiation and evaporating). We could potentially make black hole cannons for warships, given enough power, and size of the automanips used. Probably would be horrifically inefficient, though.
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