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Author Topic: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO  (Read 2532132 times)

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2820 on: April 15, 2014, 08:49:23 pm »

If I remember correctly, slow is good, fast is devastating and forms nice, sharp spikes to lyce cells with :P
Slow lets the crystals form. If you can cool the water quickly enough, and without jostling it, you can get it to A. be liquid below freezing and, more usefully, B. make it freeze in a glassy, non-jagged-crystal form.

Not sure where you're getting dehydration, though.
Hell if I know.

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I think one solution might've been to flush the person's blood and replace it with glycerin or something.
That's to keep cells oxygenated while they're being frozen.

"It is a common mistaken belief that cells will lyse (burst) due to the formation of ice crystals within the cell, since this only occurs if the freezing rate exceeds the osmotic loss of water to the extracellular space. However, damage from freezing can still be serious; ice may still form between cells, causing mechanical and chemical damage." Here's a study on it, the above is a simplification. Also explains the dehydration bit, which I didn't know before.

I'd say slow cooling is better, neh?

And glycerin does not work as oxygen transport (nor is oxygen transport needed - cryopreservation stops metabolism, so what's using the oxygen?). It is an antifreezing agent, keeping the water (presumably that which came from the cells) liquid. It's even used by some arctic salamanders.

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How does this immobilize us? That would basically coat us in a layer of frost, and that's about it.
It's a very thick layer of frost.

Must be.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2821 on: April 15, 2014, 09:13:00 pm »

I'll freely admit that it's been a long time since I've read anything on cryo...is cryogenics the thing where they freeze dead people to revive them later?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2822 on: April 15, 2014, 09:18:04 pm »

Pretty much, yeah
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2823 on: April 15, 2014, 09:24:25 pm »

I'll freely admit that it's been a long time since I've read anything on cryo...is cryogenics the thing where they freeze dead people to revive them later?

Well, cryonics. Cryogenics is just working with things at very low temperatures.
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« Reply #2824 on: April 15, 2014, 09:50:52 pm »

Cryonics, cryogenics, cryobiology...it's all a chilly blur.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2825 on: April 15, 2014, 09:52:13 pm »

So... is Nav interested in a faustian contract? :P
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2826 on: April 15, 2014, 10:13:13 pm »

I just want my brain thawed and reanimated with space magic. Don't see how that's faustian. It's not like they're modifying anything.
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« Reply #2827 on: April 15, 2014, 10:14:49 pm »

Yeah, but I have a feeling being partially assimilated and revived by Xan would have better odds. Interested?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2828 on: April 15, 2014, 10:44:30 pm »

Thing is I dunno if Dubley's permadead or not.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2829 on: April 15, 2014, 10:46:51 pm »

Well, with you rolling a seven, I assume the air in the room has been frozen. That and the fact that he froze through his MKI, which has been stated to be a near perfect insulator leads me to believe that he is not in fact, revivable. That and only part of his brain was frozen. That doesn't usually end well.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2830 on: April 15, 2014, 10:48:10 pm »

Is being assimilated by a Xanling and reanimated as a meat marionette acceptable?
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« Reply #2831 on: April 15, 2014, 10:54:57 pm »

Well, depending on how much of the brain I have to rebuild! he might retain his personality.
What I'm wondering is how he died on an End roll of 6 while Morul and Simus lived on a roll of 4.
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« Reply #2832 on: April 15, 2014, 11:36:30 pm »

Likely just the misfortune of having his head targeted for the overshot effect. As far as I recall, PW aims that kind of thing randomly.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2833 on: April 16, 2014, 12:13:14 am »

Ah.
I seriously have to get a decomp though; I think I've rolled only 6+whatevers since I got my amp.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« Reply #2834 on: April 16, 2014, 05:15:30 am »

We're also both full robots, and he was just a man.
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