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Author Topic: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO  (Read 2524964 times)

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27855 on: January 30, 2016, 07:48:20 pm »

Didn't piecewise say that you can't get better than +4? That getting a +5 would only be good in the sense that it would provide a buffer for stat loss and let you use things like the Limiter Unlock more often? So unless piecewise told you that you need to get a +5 or greater, if you really need to succeed in a roll, wouldn't it be better to get a battlestim or a limiter unlock? Because unless said roll has to happen over a very long period of time or unless piecewise said you need to have Med>=+5, I don't see why you wouldn't get something like a battlestim or a limiter unlock.

EDIT: No, wait, misread that description. Says limiter unlock only works on stats, not skills. EDIT2: Unless piecewise meant stats and skills, because he says skills in the next sentence. Yeah, he probably meant both. EDIT3: I guess I'll go ask in the Poke thread.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27856 on: January 30, 2016, 07:52:07 pm »

The way it'd inevitably be presented is as 'self-improvement so that I may better aid ARM in the times to come', if asked for a reason.

And it's true; ARM's goals coincide with Xan's in that he really doesn't want to die and ARM represents his best chance of continued existence. So he'll use his super medical skills to better help people.

Didn't piecewise say that you can't get better than +4? That getting a +5 would only be good in the sense that it would provide a buffer for stat loss and let you use things like the Limiter Unlock more often? So unless piecewise told you that you need to get a +5 or greater, if you really need to succeed in a roll, wouldn't it be better to get a battlestim or a limiter unlock? Because unless said roll has to happen over a very long period of time or unless piecewise said you need to have Med>=+5, I don't see why you wouldn't get something like a battlestim or a limiter unlock.
He's said IIRC that levels past +4 basically grant further narrower margins of failure as tasks get increasingly difficult - so the common utility of a +5 Con skill, say, wouldn't be that different from a +4, because both could make any reasonable shot you bother to ask of them. The difference is the +5 could shoot someone's left testicle off from 10 kilometres away with a better chance of success than the +4.

And I'll be using battlestims too.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27858 on: January 30, 2016, 08:11:56 pm »

I stick with "levels above +4 are not needed outside of extremely narrow cases". It fits the simplified explanation on Paris's page, meets initial Piecewise's expanation and works with the levels of achievements Xan and Maurice would dare try to accomplish.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27859 on: January 30, 2016, 09:38:59 pm »

@RC: I wrote the http://einsteinianroulette.wikia.com/wiki/Mission_24#Summary
I had already done most of the job in that PM I sent you, so I said "Why not?"
I can haz tokens?

Paris' character calculator page says that levels above +4 are meaningless, but the original thread only specifies that +4 and on gives you Pai Mei skills.  So someone should definitely ask PW.
I had asked piecewise. That's why I wrote it there. The problem is that I don't remember where I asked him. Might have been in IRC. And there's no easy way to search that. That's why I try to put citations everywhere on the wiki.

I should make a bash script to download and search all IRC logs when I have the time for it. Or just merge them in one giant text file.

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27860 on: January 30, 2016, 09:55:49 pm »

I see the difference between +4 and +5 as a matter of context.  In an unstressed situation, they're probably functionally identical.  It only matters when someone is trying to make that skillcheck while on fire, missing an arm, and the target is moving perpendicularly away in a gravitational anomaly.


Also, glad to see that got handled without violence. Lars has no problem putting a finger to the trigger.  A situation disarmed without violence!  Handy, that.

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In seriousness, he'd probably just kneecap someone in that situation, but an active threat he'd put down without hesitation.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27861 on: January 30, 2016, 10:04:06 pm »

Damnit, I wish you were around before Steve came back that would have been amazing.

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27862 on: January 30, 2016, 10:40:54 pm »

This trial needs to be broadcast shipwide, alongside free shipments of popcorn. Bonus points if we leave it ambiguous as to whether this is actually happening or some kind of soap opera.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27863 on: January 30, 2016, 10:48:25 pm »

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I would like to sell my exosuit to the team fund so i can lend tokens to Xan and buy things.
Also so it can be loaned or rented for keeps to someone in the upcoming mission.
Hmm. Normally the team fund doesn't really buy stuff like this from people, but it isn't impossible. I'd need to know what exactly it is though (eg what rolls it uses, what stat requirements) and how much you'd be asking.

Also, Xan, if Vanessa needs tokens you could ask the fund for a loan. Might work out depending on what it's for.
Stat requirements at least 0 aux and its an armored exoskeleton+jump rockets combo.

i was hoping to get 10 tokens for it, but the whole halving the value of exoskeletons kinda fucked that plan.
Unless youd consider the armor itself worth the two token price rise between buying an exoskeleton and a jump pack from the armory for 8 and buying my set for ten.

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27864 on: January 30, 2016, 11:10:46 pm »

Oh, sure. The chat was actually a short, funny dance of truths, half-truths and omissions. I intended to post them as soon as the talk ended but since I and pw messed things up - as you will notice by the timestamps - I forgot to do so. The lurker thing does shake things all over again since the UWM is basically defeated so the next talk Milno has with the power source will have a different tone, one that I still haven't decided on.

Here it is, without all the poking and OOC of the actual conversation.
Spoiler: Power Source Talk (click to show/hide)

So my plan for Trier, assuming whatever it was that was in that syringe doesn't end up killing him, was to try to resurrect some crystal people using the crystalline projector. If he ever gets that working, would Milno mind Trier borrowing the power source to test its effects on the crystal people?
I have nothing to provide and no particular connection to this, but Faith still feels bad about that so she'd be down for... drooling in a nearby corner, I suppose.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27865 on: January 30, 2016, 11:17:45 pm »

Not sure if I'm in the majority or the minority, but I sure am silent, so I'd like to clear up that I am perfectly fine with glorious friend computer diving into my mind. That is all.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27866 on: January 30, 2016, 11:20:36 pm »

I'd probably be better suited adding  three token to the wiki then asking and possibly being denied.  ;)
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So far as I can tell, when the last person to post in a thread edits their post, the thread gets the little (new) button beside it, but doesn't get bumped up to the top of the board.
So that means that this edit will probably be seen by the first person to actually click to the second page of the ER subsubboard. Hello person!

The first to quote this post in the ER ooc thread will win a fabulous prize!
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27867 on: January 30, 2016, 11:21:19 pm »

I'm fine with Green Storm OOCly, and ICly am willing to be fine with it if it's consent-based except in clear and present danger such that there's no chance to respond or the response would be coming from an alien entity.

E:Hey!  When did that prize thing go up?!
I saw that before and it wasn't there then!
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27868 on: January 30, 2016, 11:21:37 pm »

I'd probably be better suited adding  three token to the wiki then asking and possibly being denied.  ;)
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So far as I can tell, when the last person to post in a thread edits their post, the thread gets the little (new) button beside it, but doesn't get bumped up to the top of the board.
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The first to quote this post in the ER ooc thread will win a fabulous prize!
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Good job, AoshimaMichio already won that.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27869 on: January 30, 2016, 11:26:37 pm »

The shock implant and Green Storm are as E_R as Steve, the HMRC, tokens, the Altered, Powersliding body surfing laser diplomacy, and insane characters doing more damage than possessed characters.

Dester is resigned to it, primarily because he felt all control of his life slip away when he encountered Henk. And also because it doesn't surprise him in the least.
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