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[Devastator]

Personally I'm expecting the shots to breach the hull again and kill Lyra for the third time today.  Remember, it's horrifyingly abusive to lock a door, but not horrifyingly abusive to threaten a dozen people with death via space-magic.

[Xantalos]

Personally I'm expecting the shots to breach the hull again and kill Lyra for the third time today.  Remember, it's horrifyingly abusive to lock a door, but not horrifyingly abusive to threaten a dozen people with death via space-magic.

This I can actually agree with because I do the latter on a regular basis and you know the trouble our members have with doors.

[Devastator]

Personally I'm expecting the shots to breach the hull again and kill Lyra for the third time today.  Remember, it's horrifyingly abusive to lock a door, but not horrifyingly abusive to threaten a dozen people with death via space-magic.

This I can actually agree with because I do the latter on a regular basis and you know the trouble our members have with doors.

They really should get around to killing you sometime, if only because it would save the lives of other PCs.  Did you ever keep a count of the number of people you've permakilled?

And as nasty as doors are, they're mostly protective.  It's boxes that are horrifying things.

[Xantalos]

Personally I'm expecting the shots to breach the hull again and kill Lyra for the third time today.  Remember, it's horrifyingly abusive to lock a door, but not horrifyingly abusive to threaten a dozen people with death via space-magic.

This I can actually agree with because I do the latter on a regular basis and you know the trouble our members have with doors.

They really should get around to killing you sometime, if only because it would save the lives of other PCs.

They already did that. I even did it myself to be a nice guy. Now I help people.
See my +4 Med score?
Helping people.


Ignore the fact that the two other people with that high or higher medical scores are currently pseudo-holding the leadership of ARM hostage and the Doctor.

[Devastator]

Personally I'm expecting the shots to breach the hull again and kill Lyra for the third time today.  Remember, it's horrifyingly abusive to lock a door, but not horrifyingly abusive to threaten a dozen people with death via space-magic.

This I can actually agree with because I do the latter on a regular basis and you know the trouble our members have with doors.

They really should get around to killing you sometime, if only because it would save the lives of other PCs.

They already did that. I even did it myself to be a nice guy. Now I help people.
See my +4 Med score?
Helping people.


Ignore the fact that the two other people with that high or higher medical scores are currently pseudo-holding the leadership of ARM hostage and the Doctor.

Same thing I would have said to the Doc.  You aint dead if you're still around to tell people about it.

[Xantalos]

Eh, I've no interest in killing PCs anyway. Too much risk for too little benefit.

[Unholy_Pariah]

i dunno....

our so called leaders who like imagining threats to maintain their authority have some pretty deep pockets.
If you could do it and avoid getting caught long enough to pawn their crap you could probably make yourself immune to the repurcussions.

[Devastator]

I'd have a hard time calling it imaginary when the proverbial gun is like right there, pointing at you.

[Unholy_Pariah]

there is a world of difference between a gun being visible in a room and a gun being held in front of your face.

[Devastator]

That's where you have to break the metaphor down and look at the object in question.  The object in question doesn't need to be aimed and is activated by an "act of will".  Comparing it to a gun across the room is therefore inappropriate.  A closer comparison might be an auto-tracking turret or mentally-activated gunbot.  In addition, information about the nature of the offensive weapon has been provided by the threatener, so as to remove any doubt that this might not be a dangerous weapon that is intended for use against the generals.

[NJW2000]

So a bomb vest that's also an immense power source.

I don't see what's wrong with what Maurice did. He has power, and is just telling the generals this, but in a way that ensures it gets through to them. Unless you're saying somebody in ARM should not use power they've accumulated/earned, which goes against the whole token - general - etc meritocracy system.

Might doesn't make right, but it does raise one's position. And if Maurice has the might, he has the right power, that's how ARM works.

[Unholy_Pariah]

thats where we disagree. I believe the object in and of itself to be irrelevant.

Pancaek's id is a more clear and present danger, it could go ballistic and kill everyone without his permission if he starts thinking he wants them dead, he doesnt even need to make the conscious wish to set it off.

so tell me why is maurices possession of the orb considered such an active threat simply by him having it, when pancaeks less controllable manifestation treated as if it wre a mere stuffed animal?
Nobody seems to care about that little gun

[NJW2000]

Also, RC is wearing a golem made out of super evil magic flesh that wants to kill everyone, and will do so if he gets to sleep. If we're pointing these things out.

[AoshimaMichio]

thats where we disagree. I believe the object in and of itself to be irrelevant.

Pancaek's id is a more clear and present danger, it could go ballistic and kill everyone without his permission if he starts thinking he wants them dead, he doesnt even need to make the conscious wish to set it off.

so tell me why is maurices possession of the orb considered such an active threat simply by him having it, when pancaeks less controllable manifestation treated as if it wre a mere stuffed animal?
Nobody seems to care about that little gun

It has never been seen in action, therefore it is treated as mere curiosity.

[Radio Controlled]

Well then. Gone for a day and a half, expect to come back to find the missions almost started, yet instead, we have all of this. And there's so much of it! Seems like there's some reading to do.