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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27690 on: January 28, 2016, 03:54:47 pm »

We could get you an emergency kit, and maybe a can of medifoam. That good? Dunno about that free floating medic, but I don't think so, guess it'll depend on where the teams are in relation to each other.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27691 on: January 28, 2016, 04:10:16 pm »

Hmm. With my impending minmaxing boosting me to the heights of bullshit specialization, I might be able to help with the modification thing once I'm back on ship.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27692 on: January 28, 2016, 04:22:20 pm »

@Lenglon There is another emergency kit in the medical fund. I didn't assign it to Lyra because I remembered that you didn't want to be the team's medic last time (so I didn't want to push the role on you). You can have it.


Also, here goes Maurice's last bang... well, it might be second-to-last post I make IC for him for all I know. Oh well.
(I ask just one thing: please, let him finish speaking. I am really not going to put up any opposition whatsoever. I'd even suggest refraining from pvp in trial room at all, but it might be far too important for your characters I guess, so I cannot deny you that Fun. Just - don't interrupt him mid-post, m'kay? I did my best to lessen the IC opportunities of interrupting him. Oh well.)

(You know, I've waited for it so long that I almost don't feel the satisfaction from this final try. But hopefully you might find it a semi-interesting read.)

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27693 on: January 28, 2016, 04:32:31 pm »

Wow, that's quite the bombshell.  Good luck!  I was just wondering, if you don't mind my asking, who was involved in the vote (ie. How many people are a part of the acting Hephaestus administration)?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27694 on: January 28, 2016, 04:33:46 pm »

!!!@Maurice action in trial thread! Am Not Podded Until This Plays Out!!!
Um, nik? I think league of friends was a specific group. Was Lyra included in his message?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27695 on: January 28, 2016, 04:39:27 pm »

"Okay, so putting my dick into aliens is frowned upon.

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How about you make me a general and let me put my dick into more aliens? I'm good for it, you guys."

I mean, I guess he was exonerated from that whole dooming the universe thing. But talk about hurting your own case.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27696 on: January 28, 2016, 04:40:50 pm »

hes not arguing the case. hes challenging their authority and chain of command.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27697 on: January 28, 2016, 04:58:34 pm »

I agree that attaching a robot part to a human should be med. But attaching a robot part to a robot, or creating a robot part from scratch? That's pure handiwork. Any time one skill can be used in place of another it makes that other skill less useful. Same problem with Xan's body fixing robots using med. But if PW says it works then it works.
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The bolded part is the ambiguous one. How far does "people and systems that keep people from dying" extend? Shouldn't it extend to synthetic organs? If it extends to synthetic organs, why not synthetic limbs? If it extend to synthetic limbs, why not military synthetic limbs? And a robotic body is merely a combination of synthetic organs and limbs, so why shouldn't a medic be able to assemble it if she has the parts available?

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Handiwork implicitly carries with it the notion of modification, of conversion, of creating something from something else in a possibly unconventional way. If you are merely combining and performing medical procedures upon already built and programmed equipment (or at least equipment a medic should be able to handle (like synthetic limbs)) then one could see why even body mods that involve non-organic equipment could use Med.

Same thing for Aux. It seems to focus more on driving, moving cranes, programming computers and generally operating equipment, not so much on creating equipment. Only thing it shares with medical tech is the possible need to program/calibrate synthetic body parts, but I can easily see that falling in the realm of medical tech.

Last call for if people need something for their team or themself from the team fund. Newb teams have precedence of course, in case there's a lot suddenly.

Also, paris, would you mind if I buy 1 token worth of small cameras with the team fund and give them to Flint? Since he'd be the one placing them probably.
Can do. It worked well for me in the Hephaestus mission, might as well try it now. I was already thinking of using my automapping drone for that (I love that thing, a portable camera is a life saver! Newbies! Buy scout eyes! Don't let M1 let you think they're useless! Just don't fly them into walls/teammates and they'll be great!). You could even hide Lars somewhere (or I could fly him on the volcano's walls), give him that targeting module and have him snipe enemies after watching them to ensure maximum damage. You know, just in case you encounter something hard to kill with regular fire.

hes not arguing the case. hes challenging their authority and chain of command.
I haven't read his post yet, so judging from your reaction, he's doing it wrong, but challenging the chain of command is not inherently bad. Steve wants people who get the job done. If you can prove to Steve that you're better or as good or that you deserve to be there (or kill the generals and create a void that needs filling) or whatever other reason, you can be a general. I even had a plan for becoming a general, but I never really felt like executing them, both IC and OOC.

EDIT: After reading it, I'd say he used his tools quite well. Not the way I would have done it, but it seems good. I won't comment on it in depth right now because I'm really interested in how the others will react IC and don't want to influence them. But depending on how he plays it and how the others react, he has a good chance.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27698 on: January 28, 2016, 05:27:32 pm »

Yeah. Over the course of this trial, Maurice basically said: "I take full responsibility for the failures of my team. I willingly submit to your authority and judgment. lel, jk, fuck you, I'm a boss and Steve's my daddy. So long, suckers."

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27699 on: January 28, 2016, 05:37:53 pm »

hoo boy, right when we thought we were done and going to be able to get podded.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27700 on: January 28, 2016, 05:57:13 pm »

hoo boy, right when we thought we were done and going to be able to get podded.
Look at it this way: if things go horribly wrong, piecewise will have less teams to worry about :P

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« Reply #27701 on: January 28, 2016, 06:05:04 pm »

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #27702 on: January 28, 2016, 06:20:33 pm »

Oh,no, I was talking about the attaching something robotic to a robot. You know, like Vanessa does. And I believe that's fine, since both humans and robobodies use the same limbs and equipment. I mean, a medic should know how a robotic limb works, how the nutrient packs get turned into power, how the braincase operates, how the internal wiring is connected... Otherwise, how can a medic put someone in a robobody or repair a damaged robobody to keep the user functioning and prevent his death?

Designing things is a bit of a grey area. Sure, actually building something should require handiwork. But should designing something that falls in the realm of medical tech also be medical tech or not? I mean Shirley the one designing the medical equipment should have some medical knowledge to make it work well, should he not? So how far does that extend? How far can you push it? I don't know. I don't have a clear/strong opinion on the matter.

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« Reply #27703 on: January 28, 2016, 06:35:12 pm »

Haha, oh wow, Nik.  You did that with vastly more style than I expected.  My previous statements still stand, though.

Wow, that's quite the bombshell.  Good luck!  I was just wondering, if you don't mind my asking, who was involved in the vote (ie. How many people are a part of the acting Hephaestus administration)?

According to Maurice's pitch to Saint, four people voted: The Admin of Science, Maurice Sanctor (yay); The Acting Admin of Engineering, Maurice Sanctor, acting in stead for Simulacrus Ferratum-Inanis (yay); The Admin of Engineering, Anton Chernozorov (abstained); The Admin of Expansion, Steve Saint ("abstained").

That's 2-0 in favor, so Maurice went ahead.  I have to wonder if he would have decided against it if the vote had been 1-0 in favor.

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« Reply #27704 on: January 28, 2016, 06:38:29 pm »

So the vote was basically two yays from Maurice against nothing? Democracy at its finest.
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