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wooks

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Other armor metals
« on: January 25, 2014, 12:09:23 pm »

I managed to get a full set of golden armor by manipulating some moods, but I'm not totally sure how the ability of armor is calculated, I was wondering if any of you might be able to direct me to a guide on the subject, or just happen to know how different metal types stand up in the armor game. Thanks!
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Re: Other armor metals
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2014, 12:11:06 pm »

you have got both boots? how?
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Re: Other armor metals
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2014, 12:27:39 pm »

Training all children to have a dabbling skill in armoring, then making them haulers until they mood. Once they have, forbid all the forges except the one I want him in, then locking them inside a room with nothing but the bear necessities to make an artifact (and lots of gold, because my fortress is like 50% gold ore). But yeah, I have a ton of extra gold armor pieces.
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Re: Other armor metals
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2014, 12:50:56 pm »

You want the wiki page for "armor" but the upshot is, you have gotten yourself some extremely difficult to acquire and beautiful trash. It'll deflect blows alright, but anything that connects is gonna injure the dwarf wearing it. Even a silver dagger will punch through gold armor.
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Re: Other armor metals
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2014, 02:41:52 pm »

I think you can check the raws for their material properties, tensile strength and shear edge sound familiar, but the reason the military materials are restricted is because they're really the only things worth using.
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Re: Other armor metals
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 11:54:15 pm »

I think you can check the raws for their material properties, Renault strength and shear edge sound familiar, but the reason the military materials are restricted is because they're really the only things worth using.
For most things yes, but platinum warhammers/maces are extremely effective.

To answer the question, gold armor will have three times the chance of deflection as other armor, because it is an artifact, but any attack that doesn't deflect will injure the dwarf. Also, gold armor is extremely heavy, and will slow down anyone that isn't a very high level in armor user. All in all, it's very ballin', but not practical for actual combat.

Sorta on topic, is aluminum a good weapons armor material?
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2014, 12:13:47 am »

I've only found aluminum on 1 embark out of maybe 50-60 so far. But if its properties are anywhere near realistic, it would probably make trash armor, and probably be too light for hammers or maces... Also i don't know how the material properties equate to damage in swords and spears. But the reason why theres so much fancy metallurgy in sword making. You want teh edge to be hard enough to hold a sharp edge (without becoming dented, or dull from impact) but you want the core of the sword to be soft, yet strong, and impact resistant, so that it won't shatter on impact.

Aluminum can't hold an edge for crap. Yeah you could make one IRL, and sharpen it, and definitely cut yourself with it. But it wouldn't be able to penetrate any reasonable material armor. And a really one would be extremely light (say 6-10 lbs for a nice steel sword, depending on the mix, you could maybe get it as low as 2-5) so though it would be quick to swing, you wouldn't be able to knock an opponents weapon or shield back easily.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2014, 02:03:04 am »

Well, with its massive bonus, artifact aluminium gear might be enough to beat copper.
It's physically incapable of holding up against iron, though.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2014, 08:42:07 am »

Well, with its massive bonus, artifact aluminium gear might be enough to beat copper.
It's physically incapable of holding up against iron, though.
On the plus side it'd be very light for the dwarf wearing it, unlike the poor bugger wearing golden armour.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2014, 12:27:33 pm »

Personally I'd prefer to have Slade arms and armor.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2014, 12:36:49 pm »

Personally I'd prefer to have Slade arms and armor.
I recall someone who had a hammer of material that I don't remember but I want to say it was slade or something. The thign was artifact, and when given to a superdwarvenly strong militiaman, it was so heavy that when walking out to join a battle, it took him more than a month to get there and the fight was already over, then on his way back into the fort the died of thirst.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2014, 03:41:09 pm »

I modded in slade hammers by using the [Can_Stone] tag to hammers and then giving slade sheer values of [25000]. The hammers were too heavy to use effectively in combat, apparently velocity matters.

On the gold suit, you should make your hammerer wear it. THE GOLDEN HAND OF DEATH APPROACHES, FEAR ALL YE WHO HAVE BROUGHT MUGS FOR EXPORT FOR YOUR ENDS ARE NIGH!!!
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Re: Other armor metals
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2014, 07:50:36 pm »

put the suit on your military commander. surely the general deserves such majesty.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 04:37:41 pm »

put the suit on your military commander. surely the general deserves such majesty.
And an arrow to the everything?
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Re: Other armor metals
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2014, 01:18:59 pm »

Sorta on topic, is aluminum a good weapons armor material?

Aluminum is the best metal for making shields with - but usually not worth manipulating a dwarf into. I generally give my dwarves with shield preferences tanning instead, because leather is even better.
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