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[Ukrainian Ranger]

You mean that Putin may wait till situation in Ukraine destabilizes further  and move troops in after that?

[Sean Mirrsen]

You mean that Putin may wait till situation in Ukraine destabilizes further  and move troops in after that?

I mean he won't have to move troops anywhere else unless somebody actually asks him to. And I didn't mean just the Ukraine - however humorous it may seem, other contestable territories holding their own little referendums is entirely possible, even if highly unlikely to succeed.

Even then, Crimea will be enough of a strain on our existing resources as is - we just won't have the infrastructure capacity to outright acquire any more territory. It'll take time and effort to organize things there until they once again run smoothly. Just compensating for the lost electrical power supply is going to be quite the project on its own, with both temporary measures needed yesterday and the more permanent solutions rerouted from elsewhere. Add on to that economical restructuring to anticipate any further moves by the West (I've already backed up my Steam library in case Valve caves in, so I'm good), and it's pretty clear that any further annexatory movements are not in Russia's - or Putin's - interests in the slightest.

Plus, if anyone's going to move troops into Ukraine now, it'll most likely be NATO. It's more than likely that everyone's already mobilized enough that we won't beat anyone else to the punch in any other destabilizing region.

The only way we'll gain more territory after Crimea, at least in foreseeable future, is if that territory just up and changes flag on its own.

[nenjin]

Some people just understand that failing to resist will lead to a catastrophe. I think probability of full scale Russian invasion  before April 1st is very high. Why not if army doesn't resist? Or, more likely, got an order to not resist

It sounds more like you're spoiling for a fight after Russia basically ignored everything your government and the world said. Which I understand. But it sounds like bloodshed for the sake of bloodshed, so you at least did something in the face of Russian aggression. Meanwhile, open hostilities would trigger the exact scenario everyone has been afraid of since the beginning: unrestrained Russian aggression.

Either way, if Russia has plans for the rest of Ukraine, you're going to get all the war you want and then some.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

nenjin, Not defending against the first punch gives huge advantage to the enemy. Showing that your army will not fight is inviting him to invade. I am almost sure that our forces on the eastern border will get the very same - "hold up and not shoot" order when Russian will move further

First I was sure that this "not shooting" order is a cunning plan  to not repeat Georgia 2008. Now I am sure that this is just impotence, cowardice or treason. The very same impotence that guys demonstrated negotiating with Yanukovich. Who knows, maybe they got some kind of deal with Putin like him allowing them to rule on the chunk of Ukraine

OK, they choose not violent resistance. Why they don't resist using other methods? Why they didn't order to disable military equipment that may very likely be used against us soon?. Why they didn't close border with Russia? Why they didn't ban Russian television? Why they didn't start counter-propaganda campaign? Why they don't arrest Russian assets in response to stolen Ukrainian property in Crimea? Why they don't arrest collaborators that walk on the streets with flags of the aggressor and destabilize the situation? Why they didn't organize "an accident" on powerlines making Crimea go dark

[olemars]

Why they didn't organize "an accident" on powerlines making Crimea go dark

Didn't that actually happen?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Doubt it. I think it was a true accident inside Crimea, after all it is chaos there...  That was fixed overnight

If it was shut down from Ukraine then the whole Crimea would go dark, not a large chunk of it like it happened last night

[Sean Mirrsen]

Yeah, Crimea's been "dark" for a while now. Russia is moving mobile powerplants in, and constructing a more permanent powerline from mainland Russia. At least, that's what the news is saying.

[Moghjubar]

Obviously this is going to happen.
http://i.imgur.com/MnDZOja.jpg

[mainiac]

nenjin, Not defending against the first punch gives huge advantage to the enemy. Showing that your army will not fight is inviting him to invade. I am almost sure that our forces on the eastern border will get the very same - "hold up and not shoot" order when Russian will move further.

You are substituting platitudes for facts on the ground.  Ukraine is in a vastly better condition to defend itself now and has a much strengthened diplomatic position.  If you had been in charge there would have been a war a month ago, Ukraine would have gotten 0 outside support and Russia would have already annexed eastern Ukraine.  If Russia attacked Ukraine today then it would mean the doom of the Putin administration.  It's called picking your battles, you don't fight on the enemies terms.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Putin may have already doomed himself. Russia just made itself the next hermit kingdom if Putin thinks he can act like this without international consequences.

[Guardian G.I.]

Russia's political course reversal in a nutshell:

[Loud Whispers]

Your government thinks you're morons. Do me a favour and start WWIII already. Humanity's had a good run, it's about time we hand over this planet to jellyfish anyways.

[kaijyuu]

If we're going to hand over the planet to some animal, I'd suggest bonobos.

[MonkeyHead]

Bonobos? They are just too busy fucking everything to do any kind of planet ruling, unless it exclusively involved fucking the planet. Jellyfish? But they are just spineless morons. Now, Crab people, thats where its at!

[ibot66]

Yeah can we get rid of this president already? I promise we can change for the better, it's just a really awful run we've been having lately.